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#21 ·
Both.
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And, all you guys that say its cheating...is it cheating if you are using it to cool the charge...
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They also think it's cheating to use more than 91-2 Octane, or alcohol funny-cars, or drag radials, or using synthetic oil, or ETC>!
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<<<all in fun! don't go taddlin' to the teacher!>>>
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#22 ·
I'm the only one who used the word cheating, and I said that "I likened it to cheating" I didn't say it was... but to me I wont respect it.

When someone comes and says he has a supercharger. 2.3 Pulley, tuned for whatever octane.. I respect that, I respect the work that went into it and I respect the car because I know that there's a decent chance it's faster than me any time, any day, any venue.

Now with Nitrous.. we all know thats not the case. I "liken" it to cheating as far as how much respect I give it. I dont give it any respect because it came to easily, and it's only temporary. To me it's the ricers power adder, not a "car guys" power adder.

If you go fast in the 1/4 mile.. great.. that's awesome congrats. But wouldn't you get more out of it, if you could go that same speed ALL the time?

Nitrous is cool for drag racers.. heck if you do it professionally, it's a must these days. But that's all it's good for. Sorry I guess being a track monkey... nitrous has zero appeal, especially seeing what a honda with Nitrous did out at Buttonwillow. I was embarrassed for him. He wasted all of his nitrous on 1 lap to stay in front of me, he didn't pull on me.. but that's how he stayed in front.. then his nitrous ran out and both Aiforce and I passed him and left him in the dust.

It's only my opinion.. and I'm not saying it's fact. But I respect the work that goes into getting an SC installed, and tuned to work correctly. I respect that for turbo's. But a guy could put on a nitrous kit and still know jack squat about his car... I dont respect that. Just my opinion.

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Just want to clarify.. for people like infra.. who have nitrous with a supercharger and it's used to cool the charge.. I have tons of respect for that! That shows you know something about how your car works and you didn't cheeseball out. I guess I should say, nitrous in and of itself isn't a bad thing.. but these days it's just become some quick fix for kids who know nothing about their cars, dont respect theirs or any other car and just want to go fast.
 
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I'm the only one who used the word cheating, and I said that "I likened it to cheating" I didn't say it was... but to me I wont respect it.

When someone comes and says he has a supercharger. 2.3 Pulley, tuned for whatever octane.. I respect that, I respect the work that went into it and I respect the car because I know that there's a decent chance it's faster than me any time, any day, any venue.

Now with Nitrous.. we all know thats not the case. I "liken" it to cheating as far as how much respect I give it. I dont give it any respect because it came to easily, and it's only temporary. To me it's the ricers power adder, not a "car guys" power adder.

If you go fast in the 1/4 mile.. great.. that's awesome congrats. But wouldn't you get more out of it, if you could go that same speed ALL the time?

Nitrous is cool for drag racers.. heck if you do it professionally, it's a must these days. But that's all it's good for. Sorry I guess being a track monkey... nitrous has zero appeal, especially seeing what a honda with Nitrous did out at Buttonwillow. I was embarrassed for him. He wasted all of his nitrous on 1 lap to stay in front of me, he didn't pull on me.. but that's how he stayed in front.. then his nitrous ran out and both Aiforce and I passed him and left him in the dust.

It's only my opinion.. and I'm not saying it's fact. But I respect the work that goes into getting an SC installed, and tuned to work correctly. I respect that for turbo's. But a guy could put on a nitrous kit and still know jack squat about his car... I dont respect that. Just my opinion.

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Just want to clarify.. for people like infra.. who have nitrous with a supercharger and it's used to cool the charge.. I have tons of respect for that! That shows you know something about how your car works and you didn't cheeseball out. I guess I should say, nitrous in and of itself isn't a bad thing.. but these days it's just become some quick fix for kids who know nothing about their cars, dont respect theirs or any other car and just want to go fast.
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Woah, hang on a second, you didn't install any of the parts on your car. Because you picked out the parts, that makes you better than someone who picked up and installed a nitrous kit for simplicity? Just giving you a hard time, man. ;-) I agree, for a road course situation it is useless. At the same time, I don't road race, I drag race. For this purpose, nitrous, nitrous+boost, whatever my setup du jour was, worked best for my current needs. I think that is what the whole thing is about, someone's needs. I don't drive like an ass around town, so there is no need for that extra power to be there. Hell, with the supercharger I never saw any extra power because there was none until high rpms.... the motor would not see high rpm's unless I was drag racing. I will agree that a lot of morons just drop in nitrous and think they're fast.... and a lot of those morons lose their motor. The other half of them go on to know something about their car.

To each his own, I guess. :)
 
#24 ·
Hey.. I installed everything I could install on my car.. not my fault the manifold didn't fit, the downpipe didn't fit, the oil lines were to long (well that was my fault hehe). But I do tons of work on my own car. But considering i live in a condo with a Car port.. my resources are pretty slim
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I pretty much agree with what you said otherwise
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Hey.. I installed everything I could install on my car.. not my fault the manifold didn't fit, the downpipe didn't fit, the oil lines were to long (well that was my fault hehe). But I do tons of work on my own car. But considering i live in a condo with a Car port.. my resources are pretty slim
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I pretty much agree with what you said otherwise
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hehe... you should've seen last year when I uninstalled the blower/nitrous and redid half the front suspension/oilpan in my dorm parking lot. There were parts EVERYWHERE. Security kept coming by to tell me I had to stop.... I always said give me 2 more hours. For about, well, uhm.... 20 hours. lol.

Not having a garage sucks. That was one of the big things I wanted when we were looking at houses/apartments here, but we could not find anything we liked with a garage. So, I am renting a storage unit with power that I can use as a garage. :)
 
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I'm the only one who used the word cheating, and I said that "I likened it to cheating" I didn't say it was... but to me I wont respect it.

When someone comes and says he has a supercharger. 2.3 Pulley, tuned for whatever octane.. I respect that, I respect the work that went into it and I respect the car because I know that there's a decent chance it's faster than me any time, any day, any venue.

Now with Nitrous.. we all know thats not the case. I "liken" it to cheating as far as how much respect I give it. I dont give it any respect because it came to easily, and it's only temporary. To me it's the ricers power adder, not a "car guys" power adder.

If you go fast in the 1/4 mile.. great.. that's awesome congrats. But wouldn't you get more out of it, if you could go that same speed ALL the time?

Nitrous is cool for drag racers.. heck if you do it professionally, it's a must these days. But that's all it's good for. Sorry I guess being a track monkey... nitrous has zero appeal, especially seeing what a honda with Nitrous did out at Buttonwillow. I was embarrassed for him. He wasted all of his nitrous on 1 lap to stay in front of me, he didn't pull on me.. but that's how he stayed in front.. then his nitrous ran out and both Aiforce and I passed him and left him in the dust.

It's only my opinion.. and I'm not saying it's fact. But I respect the work that goes into getting an SC installed, and tuned to work correctly. I respect that for turbo's. But a guy could put on a nitrous kit and still know jack squat about his car... I dont respect that. Just my opinion.

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Just want to clarify.. for people like infra.. who have nitrous with a supercharger and it's used to cool the charge.. I have tons of respect for that! That shows you know something about how your car works and you didn't cheeseball out. I guess I should say, nitrous in and of itself isn't a bad thing.. but these days it's just become some quick fix for kids who know nothing about their cars, dont respect theirs or any other car and just want to go fast.
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I agree with everything in this post. I am exactly the same way as you bela. I hate the guy that gets a civic puts on a 75 shot for 500 bucks, runs 13s and doesnt even have the first clue how to explain how the nitrous is set up or works. Thats just me. But, I cant say stuff like that anymore cause I myself have nitrous now and trying to explain the reasons for me using nitrous is pretty much lost on all who would ask why I am saying one thing and doing another....o well...
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I have had nitrous and now I currently have a supercharger so my opinion is grounded here. I liked the nitrous cause you didn't have to use it all the time, but it was there when you wanted it to be sometimes. The thing I don't like abour nitrous is that you have to fall within all of the conditions of its use in order for it tow work right. Gotta have a Wot switch, you need an RPM switch, you have to have a bottle warmer, a pruge valve is nice, and the fuller the bottle the better. With my SC all I have to do is floor it anytime I want and there it is, granted I don't boost until 3500rpms I still know its going to boost. I would say if you are looking for a decent street car with some limited track outings get the nitrous, but do it right and get all the bells and whistles. If you want a great daily driver that has power ALL the time, then get the SC and have fun embarrassing people all the time, not just when your bottle is full....You know how the saying goes...Bottles are for babies, real men get blown...j/k..Peace

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#32 ·
I have had nitrous and now I currently have a supercharger so my opinion is grounded here. I liked the nitrous cause you didn't have to use it all the time, but it was there when you wanted it to be sometimes. The thing I don't like abour nitrous is that you have to fall within all of the conditions of its use in order for it tow work right. Gotta have a Wot switch, you need an RPM switch, you have to have a bottle warmer, a pruge valve is nice, and the fuller the bottle the better. With my SC all I have to do is floor it anytime I want and there it is, granted I don't boost until 3500rpms I still know its going to boost. I would say if you are looking for a decent street car with some limited track outings get the nitrous, but do it right and get all the bells and whistles. If you want a great daily driver that has power ALL the time, then get the SC and have fun embarrassing people all the time, not just when your bottle is full....You know how the saying goes...Bottles are for babies, real men get blown...j/k..Peace

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My opinion about nitrous bells and whistles: the only one worthwhile is a bottle heater.
 
#33 ·
I agree with the others that say SUPERCHARGER. In the long run you will get more out of the supercharger as opposed to the spray. If you spray all the time your going to wear your motor in large chunks. Not only that but the cost to refill and maintain the thing. Supercharger is going to provide you will more stable and longer lasting power. For the most part you can probably maintain the supercharger as opposed to a turbo. So SUPERCHARGER in my book.
 
#34 ·
I agree with the others that say SUPERCHARGER. In the long run you will get more out of the supercharger as opposed to the spray. If you spray all the time your going to wear your motor in large chunks. Not only that but the cost to refill and maintain the thing. Supercharger is going to provide you will more stable and longer lasting power. For the most part you can probably maintain the supercharger as opposed to a turbo. So SUPERCHARGER in my book.
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Nitrous will not cause any more wear than a blower or turbo setup provided you're not stupid about it.
 
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The wear and tear of boost? Think about the nitrous, and instant shot of 50 more hp on the motor, and that is instant. A car with a SC on it builds boost based on RPM and the strain on the motor is gradual and less intensive at first. As for a turbo I can't say don't know enough about em. I think and SC is the safest way to make power on any car. The output of the SC is going to be the same everytime and you never have to worry about overboosting or loosing a fuel selonoid that leans out your system and blows up your motor. A motor that is fully tuned to run an SC or a Turbo is less strain than a non-tuned bolt on nitrous system any day of the week....been there, done that...
 
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The wear and tear of boost? Think about the nitrous, and instant shot of 50 more hp on the motor, and that is instant. A car with a SC on it builds boost based on RPM and the strain on the motor is gradual and less intensive at first. As for a turbo I can't say don't know enough about em. I think and SC is the safest way to make power on any car. The output of the SC is going to be the same everytime and you never have to worry about overboosting or loosing a fuel selonoid that leans out your system and blows up your motor. A motor that is fully tuned to run an SC or a Turbo is less strain than a non-tuned bolt on nitrous system any day of the week....been there, done that...
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agreed. you stated what i ment. hehe goodjob
 
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The wear and tear of boost? Think about the nitrous, and instant shot of 50 more hp on the motor, and that is instant. A car with a SC on it builds boost based on RPM and the strain on the motor is gradual and less intensive at first. As for a turbo I can't say don't know enough about em. I think and SC is the safest way to make power on any car. The output of the SC is going to be the same everytime and you never have to worry about overboosting or loosing a fuel selonoid that leans out your system and blows up your motor. A motor that is fully tuned to run an SC or a Turbo is less strain than a non-tuned bolt on nitrous system any day of the week....been there, done that...
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lol... your knowledge is overwhelming.

Nitrous is not any harder on the motor than a blower or turbo. Power is power. Sure, it comes on hard.... but the bottom end can handle a 75shot hit without a problem. That horsepower is made with the blower, too, and creates the same kind of pressure within the cylinder. That pressure will also be created much more often with the blower. You can lose a motor with the blower just as easily as you can with spray. Forced induction is forced induction, period. It's all the same it is just done in different ways. Same consequences, each has its own advantages and disadvantages.... they all cause wear and tear, but that wear and tear is irrelevant on a well kept motor. A nitous'd motor, a boosted motor, or a stock NA motor can all go 150,000 miles without incident if well maintained and taken care of. Do I need to post pictures of one of my old heavy nitrous motors after disassembly, then show you a picture of a stock motor by someone who just drives the car? Mine look better.
 
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