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#41 ·
No matter where you buy a kit from, or build it yourself, I really dont think you are going to have any kind of "warranty". You could easily get bad gas, turn up the boost too much, miss a gear, over rev the motor and blow it up. The list of things that can go wrong is endless. With that said, I really wouldnt consider it as a deciding factor to buy someones kit.

I really think we should have a FJ sponsor vs FJ member battle though. There are some pretty impressive cars on here and we should see what can really be done. Mabye at JF3!
 
#42 ·
yeah, but for what its worth, FS has unbelieveable tech support and included tuning that you cant get anywhere else--and no, not even on FJ can you get the same degree of knowledge on CERTAIN aspects of the focus, especially the duratec. Not to mention every customer gets access to the turbo/SC forum that nobody else has access to, which is awesome for many reasons :)
 
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#43 ·
S6tech said:
I really think we should have a FJ sponsor vs FJ member battle though. There are some pretty impressive cars on here and we should see what can really be done. Mabye at JF3!
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Except FS sponsors have a bit more $$ to play with, we would get dominated, lol
 
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#45 ·
focuspl99 said:
for the sake of conversation do you think by this individuals words that he's serious? i mean it's only 1 run on sentence :lol: :lol: :lol:

i think someone at this point isnt where they want to be to start fabbing a custom turbo setup rofl
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I'm not talking about him, *******. I'm talking about anybody in general.
 
#46 ·
as far as a warrenty im talking about parts, not a tune. You dont need a warrenty for a good tune...and im not just talking about randy's, ray, C-F-M, Massive, and Tom. Their tunes speak for themselvs as far as quality. Now when you weld your manifold up and put it on a realize that it has pinholes in the welds are you going to get the company you got the bends from or the company that made the welder pay to fix it. Now if you get a manifold from any of the people i listed above and it leaks, which none have ive herd of except one but he would always fix it for free, im sure they would be not hesitant at all to replace or fix it free of charge. These are my thoughts. I am one who is building my own kit but it wont be junk and surely wont save me any money. BTW randy you have a PM.
 
#48 ·
I do like the xios and its components but i would have plumed it a bit diffrent and used a different turbo personally. Not a hit on xios, but thats why im building a kit because that kit, although great, is not exactly what i want..and id rather pay for something that i want, ya know what i mean?
 
#49 · (Edited)
focuspl99 said:
for the sake of conversation do you think by this individuals words that he's serious? i mean it's only 1 run on sentence :lol: :lol: :lol:

i think someone at this point isnt where they want to be to start fabbing a custom turbo setup rofl
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Yeah, I know what you mean, he's a renob.
I haven’t really made a stand in along time but the crap he's saying is just asinine.

I’ve learned more talking and working with the sponsors on this site and others to complete my projects. If your such an expert than prove them wrong.

If you are just some 16 year old kid blowing smoke out your ass than do us all a favor, sell your focus now or find a new site. People here are entitled to their opinions, as for what you like about each kit or dislike about them. You would come across better if you would look at them and try to learn why they choose to do it different than you.

Not every setup is right for the street. They have all been designed to support the turbo experience. Not taking it to the extreme after all most of these cars are daily drivers.

Now, as far as tuning is concerned. I would hope you’re smart enough to know you’re an idiot; meaning that you should seek a professional. I have personally talked tuning with Randy, Tom, Ray, Orangesvt03, and other is the UK. I have tuned my car with there help and the SCT PRP.

The time and frustration it takes to learn to be an effective tuner is not something it seems you possess, as; you have proven you couldn’t even learn the effective use of English grammar.

So, here’s your chance to redeem yourself.

Stop, Think!

What would you really like to be known for being a Renob, or as a person that has some good ideas and isn’t afraid to ask others for help.

Who knows how to express there idea’s correctly and is always looking to expand thier knowledge.


By the way what are you driving anyway Zetec or Duratec as both of theses kits are very different.
 
#50 ·
I would just like to interject here for a second. I would like to consider myself as a do-it-yourself kind of guy, but I also know that my knowledge of the focus is not that extensive. For me to say that "I" want to go and start a dyi turbo project myself would be crazy. I know my limitations and abilities and that would be way above. Heck, I would love to be able to totally fill the accomplishment of being able to do a turbo build from the ground up and call it my own, but that just won't happen.

On the other hand, spending the money for a kit like FS turbo would totally be up my ally. I applaud the time that FS puts into all of their work. It's just too bad I don't have a Duretec or I would be buying the FS kit. :)

To sum up a little here though, I still feel that by buying an FI kit for my car and installing it myself will still give me the satisfaction of accomplishment that I need. Just as when I install all of the aftermarket parts to my car (at least the ones that I feel comfortabel doing.) This is an everyday driver so I really don't want to f it up. :) :)

If you are a DIYer and have the knowledge to build your own turbo setup. Amen.

If you are like me and don't have the time to learn what is involved then Amen to sponsors like FS.

I also enjoy the knowledge that I can get from the people here on FJ that have gone before me and are willing to spread that knowledge.
 
#51 ·
so im gonna do this turbo thing and am gonna go buy part by part rather than everything at once and was wondering if anyone did it this way and may have a list of EVERYTHING needed from the guages to the turbo that was used for the turbo that i could put a list together and check off as i go
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Back to the thread at hand! All he wanted was a list of the stuff he'd need to be able to build his own turbo setup, if you have anything to add to the list than I implore you to add it, otherwise let's keep this thread on track. :D
 
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Product Name & Description Price Garrett GT2871R $1,100.00 Greddy Type RS BOV $180.00 Greddy BOV Flange $15.00 Diablo MAFia $160.00 60 Lb Injectors $225.00 Oil Feed & Return Line $85.00 Oil Drain Flange $25.00 Oil Dran Gasket $3.00 Autometer Boost Guage (Lunar Series) $97.00 NGK Digital A/F Readout $265.00 TurboSmart Manual Boost Controller $72.00 Motorcraft 1Step Colder Spark Plugs $6.00 PCV Valve (Mustang SVO) $10.00 Percision Intercooler $225.00 Tuning+SCT Tuner (Lido) $750.00 Manifold (LOG) $300.00 Downpipe $250.00 IC Piping $350.00
Total So Far $4,118.00

+ cone filter 30, couplers 60-100, Vac lines 25, RTV 6, bolts 10, The list could go on but as you can see its 500 more than the FS turbo. Now you could throw something together for cheaper, but this is a list for a kit that will last and perform...im sure that randy or any other sponser would agree that this list is of only quality peices.
 
#54 ·
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unless your good at fabrication.... then most of your piping and what not... you can knock down quite a bit.... including the manifold... and flanges if your really good or have access to the machines to do it...

plus... i thought most people use 42lb injectors... arnt the 60lb'rs harder to tune properly for? thats what i'd been told anyways... and i know the 42's are good for 300+whp... +... you are right... those are TOP quality parts you have listed... which come with a top quality price tag... which most kits dont always include.

i was planning on doing this myself here recently but bought another project so oppted out of it.... but as my list sat... with a GT28RS... i was sitting at around $2,000 without tuning and a power potential of ~ 350whp... but i do have access to all the equipment to build my own manifolds... exhaust piping... intercooler piping... and have some direct discounts with a few places that offer quite a few of the other parts i was needing... such as the braided lines and vacuum lines....

it really depends on what and who you know on how cheap you can get things done for :p

good luck w/ the turbo... hope all goes well... as for adding to the list... most of the bases seem to be covered.

-AcId-
 
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#56 ·
Here's what I have planned/partially bought so far with a general idea for price:

Turbo: 14b from a 1g Eclipse - $50
(Only because they didn't come with the turbo)
-Jpipe: stock, 1.75" ID - $20
-O2 housing: stock - $20
Intercooler: DSM sidemount - FREE from a really nice guy on another forum
Manifold: stock Zetec manifold - FREE (already had it, duh)
Flange to mount turbo: $23 from BMCRace
MAF: 80mm from SVTPerformance - $45
Injectors: 42 lb/hr from someone on here: $75
Oil feed and drain line: complete kit from Tuner Toys - $75 (with HMT member discount)
Tuning: Chip with three tunes from JMS chip - $379
IC piping: 2.5" ID scavenged from my dad's workplace - FREE
Silicone couplers: 1.75" > 2.5" reducers from Siliconeintakes.com, ~$25
T-Bolt Clamps: also from Siliconeintakes.com, ~$8
Boost gauge: from a member of HMT, $16
Oil Pressure gauge: from the same member of HMT, $16

That's ~$752 for everything listed.

There's also a few hidden items like random nuts and bolts to mount the jpipe and O2 housing to the turbo, IC brackets, manifold gasket, etc.

I haven't looked too much into exhaust systems yet, but I will definitely get a flex pipe for part of the downpipe, buy an O2 bung, and run a 3" DP and exhaust. I don't know what muffler I'm going with, but of the ones I looked at, none were more than $75.

My dad works with a guy that welds and he has agreed to weld everything for me, so that will be taken care of.
 
#57 ·
eshaw said:
Here's what I have planned/partially bought so far with a general idea for price:

Turbo: 14b from a 1g Eclipse - $50
(Only because they didn't come with the turbo)
-Jpipe: stock, 1.75" ID - $20
-O2 housing: stock - $20
Intercooler: DSM sidemount - FREE from a really nice guy on another forum
Manifold: stock Zetec manifold - FREE (already had it, duh)
Flange to mount turbo: $23 from BMCRace
MAF: 80mm from SVTPerformance - $45
Injectors: 42 lb/hr from someone on here: $75
Oil feed and drain line: complete kit from Tuner Toys - $75 (with HMT member discount)
Tuning: Chip with three tunes from JMS chip - $379
IC piping: 2.5" ID scavenged from my dad's workplace - FREE
Silicone couplers: 1.75" > 2.5" reducers from Siliconeintakes.com, ~$25
T-Bolt Clamps: also from Siliconeintakes.com, ~$8
Boost gauge: from a member of HMT, $16
Oil Pressure gauge: from the same member of HMT, $16

That's ~$752 for everything listed.

There's also a few hidden items like random nuts and bolts to mount the jpipe and O2 housing to the turbo, IC brackets, manifold gasket, etc.

I haven't looked too much into exhaust systems yet, but I will definitely get a flex pipe for part of the downpipe, buy an O2 bung, and run a 3" DP and exhaust. I don't know what muffler I'm going with, but of the ones I looked at, none were more than $75.

My dad works with a guy that welds and he has agreed to weld everything for me, so that will be taken care of.
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A list like that, although will work if planned out correctly, could not even compare to a professional kit, such as FS. Sure its an 800 dollar kit, but you are using an old DSM turbo, an old DSM sidemount, various used parts. Im not completely knocking on the kit, I just personally couldnt compare it to anything FS or Xios would make. Some of the diy kits out there have some real money into them. BAll bearing turbos, tial wastegates, electronic boost controllers, professional tig welding on all the manifold, downpipes, intercooler pipes... this stuff really adds up in the end but you also have a well thought out kit(not that yours isnt, I would have just used different material than you...)
 
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#58 ·
Oh I understand completely. The main idea behind this kit was cheap yet effective and reliable boost. I could easily find a way to spend a ton more and get some real quality, high-end parts that would rival a FS kit minus the tuning experience, etc., but this will be just fine for me at this point.
 
#59 ·
Just a heads up, you might want to confirm that price for the chip AND programming a turbocharged Focus. That doesn't sound right and if thats the JMS that I know down in the south, I seriously doubt they would do it for that cheap. ;)
 
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