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Just when I'm seriously ready to go shopping for a used car for a daily driver, up pops a really clean 323 GTX!
Looks REALLY clean.

Only 110,000km ((70,000 miles).

I was considering a 1997 Volvo 850 AWD wagon, 197hp turbo. Pretty nice car, can tow 3300lbs, carry tons of stuff. Volvo safety, etc. Exhaust and a manual boost controller would get you 230-240hp, and that cool I5 warble.

But, the one I was looking at (and could afford) has sold I think.


I've also seriously considered a nice Escort GT as a daily driver. Had one before, and it was a good car. They're fun, handle well, cheap, etc...

Anyway, so up pops this GTX.

I called the guy, and he sounded decent. Apparently he's a GTX enthusiast, he's had 3 of the cars. He just loves them, and pretty much keeps them factory. I think the only "mod" is a boost gauge. He said he's basically replaced everything on the car. New trans (3rd synchro), brakes, bearings, calipers, fuel tank, pump, rad, water pump, exhaust (factory exhaust)... It's a little fishy why a low milage car would need that much stuff. I don't get it. But, I think it's worth the trip. I'll check things out thoroughly. He says the underside is clean, it was oil sprayed. But the top there is a little rust on the back of the hatch, and the roof. Just minor. I asked if it bubbled, and he said no, just surface rust. Of course, they always say "just surface rust" <shrug>

Anybody have any experience with these cars as daily drivers? I have an idea of their typical faults, rotors are hard to change, 3rd gear synchro is goes, etc... But in general, how reliable are they?

I know the Escort GT was a pretty good car, and it's basically the same car. I also have the Focus as a backup if I ever need.

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Take a good look at the GTX. A friend of mine has one, and it is an awesome car. Good performance, AWD, etc. I'm not sure how reliable they are, as his is currently getting a new engine. But definetly keep this car in mind.
 

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Do you remember that showroom perfect 323 GTX my buddy had to get rid of last year that I posted? 50kmiles, though he got a decent $5500US for it......but it broke my heart not to grab it because it was perfect .

That said, while it was interesting and pretty fun to drive..who doesn't think an electronic center diff lock button is cool...there is no getting around it being a 1.6 and even with all the HKS bolt-ons, larger intercooler, injectors etc. it just wasn't nearly as "snappy" as my rabbit. add the usual AWD pork, and without the usual "add a ton of rear roll stiffness" I thought it was a bit of a pig to toss around.

A buddy of mine out here has an 850 turbo wagon........clean, fast, auto, and an infinitely useful car.......and best of all it tows his Solo II rabbit...........now is that a perfect combo or what?
 

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Yeah, the 850 wagon is pretty nice, but it might have to wait a few years. I found one for 13,500 CDN, but it might be sold.

Supposedly, the GTX can get up to 180hp with just exhaust, reprogrammed computer, and turn the boost up to 15psi.

Besides... I'm just looking for a daily driver. No, really. No really really.

Ok ok, it still has to be fun to drive, interesting. Just wondering if it would be unreliable daily.
 

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One car I've always wanted and sadly never have had a chance to own.

I think they are fairly reliable. Of course a lot of them have seen some serious SCCA Rally action and may be clapped out. But if the paperwork seems legit I would definately take it over a 'scort.
 

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Why are you not driving the Focus everyday? Considering the resale value of a focus at their present state it is worth more to me as my daily driver until I get my 10 years out of it. Do you still have a Focus? Sounds to me like you just want something different to wrench on. Or has your Focus become your stabled horse until the weekend or evening at the track?
 

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Nope, not getting rid of the Focus by any stretch of the imagination. I'm taking it off the road because I like it so much.

The roads and drivers here in Michigan are the most pitiful I've ever seen, and I can't bear to see the car constantly torn up by pot holes, chunks of decaying concrete, or spinning cars. I've wanted to get a "beater" for a while, but realistically, I spend so much time in my car every day (2 hours) that I would like a car one step above a "beater".

Also, having a second car will allow me to put the car down for extended periods of time to do more development work on it. Also, take it further than I would otherwise. Cage, race seats, etc...

I'll use it on weekends and for trackdays mostly.
 

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The escort GT was like the 323. The GTX is a fairly different beast, with AWD and some other niceties. I'd jump on it. and if you ever wanna have some serious fun modding the 323, go over to www.corksport.com and get the BPTurbo motor.
 

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My mom has a 96 850 turbo wagon. That would be an awesome car for commuting to work. The seats a very comfortable, the driving position i like better than my focus's. Its got very nice power output and a slick auto tranny to boot. Mebe look for an older one.. what year did they start with the t-5s?
 

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323 GTX...Daily driver...Does not compute...

Man i would love to have one, of course id rally the living poo out of it. My honest opinion would be to go with the Volvo as a daily driver. But buy the GTX anyway!!! (if you decide you dont want it you can give it to me as a birthday present)
 

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Well, I forgot the most important thing, must have AC. And it doesn't.


Oh well.

I drove a '94 Volvo 850 GLE sedan last night. Non-turbo, auto. Nice car. I'm trying to encourage Tina to go for it.
 
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