between this and the new camaro, it's a good time to be a car guy (well, minus the gas prices).

i like!

Mike

 

38k for an srt8 not bad at all.

 

*want*

 

with that price they need to offer something in the mustang between the shelby 500 and the regular gt (I"m not talking about the regular shelby gt). the R/T model will have more power then the GT yet cost the same. this won't be quite as fast as the gt500 but is also $15k cheaper before markups. they need to put more power in the regular mustangs and soon, otherwise camaro and challenger sales are going to hurt it really quickly.

 

oh gosh, it comes in black....



*sighs*

 

wow! anybody read the article? they've completely sold out first years' productions on pre-orders alone. that's gonna be mark-up city!

Mike

 

I saw a Charger sitting at a light next to a new Mustang.... The Mustang sat a foot lower but had the same ground clearance. If Dodge uses the same body parts it will be a tall car too so I'm guessing the pictures are deceptive compared to seeing one in person....

OTOH, It's closer to the 70's Challenger than the Mustang is it's ancestor.

 

OTOH, It's closer to the 70's Challenger than the Mustang is it's ancestor.

i disagree. not just cuz i own a mustang. they are both very close to what they looked like back then. i havent seen the challengers interior. the mustang interior is even retro.

 

I personally feel the Mustang is a very fresh and modern interpretation of the old design (in other words, not as close as people might first think), whereas the Challenger is simply a throwback to the '70.

 

... they need to put more power in the regular mustangs and soon, otherwise camaro and challenger sales are going to hurt it really quickly.

^Have no fear


My gf works at Chrysler on Challenger development; she recently turned down a ride & drive evaluation of the vehicle (Challengers, Chargers and Mustangs thru Boston and hills in NY) because of finishing her semester, and propensity to car sickness..! I had to slap her silly, can you imagine missing an opportunity like that??

The new pony cars from Chevy and Dodge have me worried a bit, but I have faith in the Mustang team here in Dearborn to churn out something wicked (hopefully better than the Shelby GT :screwy: )

 

(hopefully better than the Shelby GT :screwy: )

You didn't like the Shelby GT?

I'd love to have one. 2007 proved that Ford can set up a modern mustang to be quite nimble with the Shelby GT.

I personally feel that the secret to Mustang goodness isn't just in having a punchy V8. There is much more to the car than that.

The tastefully styled 05+ cars with good rubber and suspension are where it's at.

If I could have an all-aluminum motor'd one making about 340-350 horse, I'd be thrilled.

 

Well, the Shelby definitely looks sharp, but it's a giant pig, the hoodscoop is fake, and everything that "Shelby" added can be had from a FR catalog for hundreds less than the package costs.

I just remember a Car&Driver comparo a month or three back in which it was completely owned by all of its competition (350Z, TT, something something). It was disappointing.

 

For the money, I'd rather have a BDX Mustang.

Comes with free instruction, too. :banana:

 

At $38k and 6000 units its first year this car is NOT going to hurt mustang at all. Mustangs are almost all v6 autos that sell for the mid $20k. This car is cool and all, but at $38k is geared towards older people that want to relive there childhood and have a retro car. It is just too $ an impractical for the average person to drive this thing.

Also it is only offered with a 5 speed auto…

 

but it's a giant pig

The extra parts don't really weigh THAT much more. It certainly isn't near as porky as the GT500.

You're looking at it from a part-by-part basis, which is fine, but most people buy cars intact, not one part at a time.... that and a regular Mustang with the catalog bolt-ons wouldn't be eligible for the type of motorsports I'm interested in, whereas a Shelby would be. I don't expect everybody to understand that one, of course.

 

Why gay-matic? err I mean automatic?:dunno:


Bobby

 

At $38k and 6000 units its first year this car is NOT going to hurt mustang at all. Mustangs are almost all v6 autos that sell for the mid $20k. This car is cool and all, but at $38k is geared towards older people that want to relive there childhood and have a retro car. It is just too $ an impractical for the average person to drive this thing.

Also it is only offered with a 5 speed auto…

the initial run is only auto. when they introduce the full 09' there offering a 6 speed on all trim levels, including srt.

 

the initial run is only auto. when they introduce the full 09' there offering a 6 speed on all trim levels, including srt.

In that case I'll take RED :thumbup:

Bobby

 

I just remember a Car&Driver comparo a month or three back in which it was completely owned by all of its competition (350Z, TT, something something). It was disappointing.

yeah it came in fourth according to car and driver. that doesnt mean those cars owned it. they didnt like the way they live rear handled on bumpy roads thats basicly why it got 4th. they said on smooth surfaces and the track it handles good. the skid pad it pulled the same as the rx8 was .01 behind the other 2. 0-60 it beat them all. 1/4 mile it beat them all except tied the z. i think that was driver error in my opinion. since they complained about the hurst shifter and it was hard for them to shift.

 

Any solid axle is going to perform badly on choppy surfaces... it is just the nature of the beast... but thankfully race tracks are smooth.

 

no offense to the car, but who looks at that and says 'i want it to turn left and right with the best of them' anyways? after trying countless times to perfect the launch of the GTO at the drapstrip, i'm really starting to see the perks of a live axle *flame suit on*

Mike

 

no offense to the car, but who looks at that and says 'i want it to turn left and right with the best of them' anyways? after trying countless times to perfect the launch of the GTO at the drapstrip, i'm really starting to see the perks of a live axle *flame suit on*

Mike

If you are buying this car for track drag racing then yes a live axle may be the most cost effective way do do that. But most people who buy this car will NEVER drive it on a track, but on real roads that are bumpy and have turns.

I am sure they will have a Mopar aftermarket option to put a live axle in, hinted by the drag racing concept they had going around that had just that.

Also people who are worried about DRAG racing don’t care about handling and hanging with the best of them, but many people into other forms of racing are interested in more than straight line runs.

 

Looks better than the mustang imo.
I'm not interested in either one tho.
Yo.

 

.... that and a regular Mustang with the catalog bolt-ons wouldn't be eligible for the type of motorsports I'm interested in, whereas a Shelby would be. I don't expect everybody to understand that one, of course.

I hear ya

 

no offense to the car, but who looks at that and says 'i want it to turn left and right with the best of them' anyways? after trying countless times to perfect the launch of the GTO at the drapstrip, i'm really starting to see the perks of a live axle *flame suit on*

Mike

I think the C/D guys have lost the technique of driving a live axle more than anything else. The axle will dance a little over bumps, but I think it is worth it in durability for daily drivers of the torquey pushrod V8's. At speed you can't do some of the things an IRS will do but the IRS load up totally different under accelleration as stated earlier. I wish the'd bring back the simple, inexpensive rear wheel drive as I've never loved driving front wheel drive like I have my live axles.

Ref. the Mustang being retro.. I was a 12 year old boy in Ft. Riley KS when my neighbor brought home his brand new '68 GT 500.... I don't look at the new one and think it's the same car, just newer. I look at it and say, "hmm, ok, I can see it's something like it". The Mach I maybe kinda sorta, but not the '68. The new Mustang is it's own car and that's good and I like it just the way it is.