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A Unique perspective on Focus quality

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Driving new Focus less laborious love

10/19/03

For me, owning a 2000 Ford Focus ZX3 has been all about loving the driving part so much that I tolerate the mechanical worries about Ford's wonderful problem child.

But it appears that Focus owners will be finding more to love and less to worry about.

It seems highly likely that the 2004 model will soon receive a spot on the coveted "recommended" list of Consumer Reports magazine.

Meanwhile, the 2003 Focus now ranks right behind the Honda Civic on the J.D. Power and Associates Initial Quality Study, said Brian Walters, the senior director of vehicle research.

While that is dandy for new Focus buyers, one consumer advocate thinks early owners deserve an extension on their warranty.

Since its introduction in 1999 as a 2000 model, the Focus has been almost universally praised by automotive writers for its excellent handling, interior package and price.

First, it was recognized by automotive journalists in Europe as the Car of the Year. Then, a group of 50 automotive journalists in the United States and Canada - including me - named it the North American Car of the Year.

But the problem is that it takes a while to learn about reliability, and after the Focus had been on the road a while, the 2000 and 2001 models began having troubles.

The 2000 and 2001 Focus had a series of safety recalls as well as owner complaints concerning stalling and ignition problems that prevented the key from being used.

Consumer Reports testers praised the Focus' handling but said they could not recommend the Focus because of mechanical problems.

Even Ford officials have readily acknowledged they made serious errors in the first couple of years and they swore, cross their little corporate hearts, that improvements were being made.

Now, it seems those improvements have taken place, according to two independent sources.

One is Consumer Reports magazine, which is published by Consumers Union and conducts its own frequency-of-repair sur....
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Re: Unique Article on the focus

Yup, lesson learned: Never buy a car in its first or second production year.

Only with Focus I expected it to be better because it had already been on the market in Europe for a while.
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Yup, lesson learned: Never buy a car in its first or second production year.

Only with Focus I expected it to be better because it had already been on the market in Europe for a while.
they changed all the parts and had all new suppliers, making new parts, a recipe for trouble.

The initial focus wouldn't happen on C1 because C1 carries over alot of C170 parts, and current suppliers would make C1 parts.

I make no promises, but ford launched the US focus as an currently built product, not as an all-new product. Those poor workers had crappy parts, New unrelaible equipment, and high demand, all that with inadequate launch support from Ford engineering.



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...and my 2k Focus ticks along merrily.
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"Yup, lesson learned: Never buy a car in its first or second production year."

Depends on the car, many first year products were fine, mainly since they used proven parts and technology. Examples: 1993 Altima, 1965 Mustang, and 1967 Camaro
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2002.5 model year, absolutely flawless (zero repair dollars spent) and highly enjoyable at 16,000mi.
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My 2001 focus has had one problem, and it was covered by warranty. Other than that, from a quality standpoint, I am completely satisifed.
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Same with my 2001, it was flawless. I think because it was a really late build 2001.
My 2002 ZX5 was mechanically flawless over 22K miles, and my 03 SVT ZX5 has been flawless so far (1500K miles, knock on wood).
I've also got a 97 Expedition with 88K miles. Mechanically it's been rock solid. So the first year cars are sometimes great, sometimes not.

My only gripe about Ford boils down to the build quality. I've yet to own a Ford where the various interior panels line up properly. My Expedition's solid as a rock, but there are panels with detail lines that don't match up, huge gaps, etc. My SVT is better than my 02, but the panels still don't match up between the dashboard and the door panels. Minor crap, but I wish they could get that right.
But I guess we get what we pay for. Optioned out VW's have beautiful interiors, but they can cost 10K more too.

But seriously, If we want Toyota reliability, I'm afraid we'll have to buy a Toyota. I don't think anyone can touch them from a reliability/build quality standpoint. Too bad most of their cars are bland as white bread. Somehow even the Celica and Matrix are lame looking. It's been downhill (passion-wise) for Toyota ever since the Turbo MR2 and the Turbo Supra. IMHO
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I haven't had a problem with my 2000. Coming up to 60k and still not one problem.....


*Runs off to touch some wood*
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"Yup, lesson learned: Never buy a car in its first or second production year."

Depends on the car, many first year products were fine, mainly since they used proven parts and technology. Examples: 1993 Altima, 1965 Mustang, and 1967 Camaro
Yup my wifes Jeep Liberty was a 2002 (first model year), and so far at 20K miles, it has been perfect, no issues.

Whereas my SVT Focus has been in the shop 12 times in the little over a year that I have owned it. Replacing 2 starters, alternator, throttle bodies, intake manifold hardware and a plethora of other driveability problems. I sure wish this car was rock solid, but so far this car and my wifes previous 1st year Jetta, have been a piece of crud as far as reliability. But at least the SVT is a blast to drive when it's working.
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...and my 2k Focus ticks along merrily.
Yep yep.


It seems I'm a lucky duck, as mine has been bulletproof.
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Everything on the interior and exterior, for that matter, of my car matches perfectly.

My only complaint is the (here comes one I bet you've never heard...) seats. They are quite awful. Have the Ford designers never been inside an Integra or Prelude? The Focus seats are like big sucky minivan chairs. Don't even get me started on the crap-ass pattern all over the center section, way to make it look like a Neon in here.

I'll never bitch about this again, I promise.
Re: Unique Article on the focus

2002.5 model year, absolutely flawless (zero repair dollars spent) and highly enjoyable at 16,000mi.
2002 was a good year. Mine was built in Aug 01 (its an 02 model). 39000 miles and running happy. No recalls, and minimal maintenance.
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Mine was built n Aug 02 as an 02. So is that a 2002.5?
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Damage might have already been done on the Focus. Sales are slipping horribly. My Focus has been average on repairs compared to other Focus, but horrible compared to other vehicles. My father's Jeep Wrangler is more reliable!
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i have an 02 ZX3 power premium and i have had fewer problems with my car compared to my wifes 03 corolla. admittedly, the problems so far have been minor but they are still annoying. the point- no car is flawless.
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Problem free so far.
22k miles
Couple track events
JRSC installed by Oscar
No re-flash.
This vehicle has exceeded my expectations.
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I have an '01. We have a love, hate thing going on.
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Nothing more than a DPFE sensor and a set of tires/brake pads as of yet, with 60k miles down. I have a 2001.5, with nitrous, and it's been a good car.
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