[This message has been edited by vision (edited 07-13-2001).]

 

Congrats on your new purchase - that's all you get from me. I've put up with that stuff for almost a year from my friends and girlfriend so I feel your pain but I won't be letting it sway my decision...

Good luck with your new ride.

>8^)
ER

 

Oh yeh, I did ask... and what I was told was that SVE/Ford (unofficially) killed any hope of a Roush Focus. They were working on it, and were (unofficially) told to cease and desist if they want to continue working with Ford on the Mustang. Ford WILL NOT license anyone to build a special Focus until the SVT is standing on it's own two feet and selling out each year. Then they might allow it.

NO Saleen
NO Roush
NO AEM

Aftermarket parts are fine... but they aren't allowing them to be sold at dealerships and they are voiding the warrenties on any cars they produce to be sold as as a complete car. If a person wants to buy a Focus and drop it off with them... they can modify it for the owner, but they will void anything they believe is negatively effected by the mods.

Too bad! Politics..ya know.

 

Hey I had a similar problem with my girlfriend. She too liked the Roush V6 Stang wanted me to get it over the focus svt.
I thought about it but the Roush listed for 22,000 and thats more than I wanted to go, and the gas milage isnt all that great.
She likes the Focus just not the back end. But like I told her I am the one thats going to be paying for it not her, I dont tell her what to drive.
But you picked a great car but I dont think it will perform as well as you think, I believe the V6 stangs have only 195 horse power, I am sure roush bumps it up a little, but its still a very heavy car. But good luck with it.

 

I'm sure she's a doll, but I think you need a new girl friend

Any woman who judges you based on the car you drive sounds pretty shallow.

 

Well, she isn't REALLY judgeing me... she has her opinion about the appearance that is portrayed by any given thing. A mustang portrays one image... a Focus portrays another.

She sees me as one type of person (and I LIKE the person she sees me as) and she thinks the Focus conflict with her image of me.

I'm not all that sensative to the image issue... but I understand where she's coming from.

Think about the movie TF&F.... By sliding out of an RX-7 near the beginning of the movie.... you imediately formed a conception of the person... would you think of him the same way if he slid out of a Tiburon... no matter what he had done to it.

Different cars project different personalities... The personality projected by the Focus is completely different than what is projected by a mustang.

I wasn't thinking about that aspect of it when I decided on the Focus... I hadn't even considered a mustang. But things change when you see yourself in reflected in your girls eyes. I like the fact that she sees me as a Mustang as opposed to a Focus.

If you were a car....what would you be? What car would you want your girl to think of YOU as?

 

I have to deal with it from my family and friends too. My girl likes it but she has made it know that there are lots of cars she likes better, but she says that she just wants me to be happy.

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Ordered 2002 Focus SVT
Black and Blue

 

It sounds like you are hung up on image.

The Focus and Mustang are very different cars. (I own both.) For city driving the Focus wins hands down. For serious road work the Mustang wins hands down.

Decide what best fits your needs and go with it. You'll probably have to live with it longer than your girl friend!

 

P.S. If you go with a Mustang get a real one.

Bite the Bullitt and get a V8.

 

Have got to keep your fiance happy

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The SVT isn't cheap though. She probably doesn't understand it. Just because the price isn't $30,000+ doesn't make it a cheap car.

If I were rich $$$ I would still like to have a SVT Focus.

 

I would have gone with a base V8 Mustang simply because of the increased potential. But you could always drop this in the car in the future:
Hmmm... supercharged cobra engine...

But the V6 numbers aren't what they were in the previous gen., so its alright.

(BTW, just noticed there is a little section on www.stangnet.com to www.focusfrenzy.com) There are some gorgeous examples here in Houston. One was yellow with black vynil around the scoop (and the scoop looked like it was modified to actually be FUNCTIONAL... and its lame that it isn't in the first place). But it did look mean!

Also, PLEEEASE buy those Bullit wheels! They look so very sweet on the new stang's.

Realize that some guy with a SVT Focus is going to blow by you in the twisties though heheh! Congrats on your new baby!

Oh and here is a cool SVT Focus wallpaper from that site: http://www.focusfrenzy.com/wallpaper/nightsvt1024.jpg

[This message has been edited by Ducman69 (edited 07-13-2001).]

 

I would drop that girlfriend of yours like a bad habit. She would actually consider dumping you over what kind of car you drive? How shallow is that?

Also, the Roush Stang is crap. I own a 99 Mustang GT 5-speed that has had a list of problems longer than the Declaration of Independence. Even 2001 owners have some of the exact same problems. I also own a 2001 ZX3, that has had no problems at all. It is obvious that the build quality on the Focus is ten times that of the Mustang.

Besides reliability, the Roush Stang's resale value will drop like a rock, probably even more than a standard V6 (Roush isn't exactly Saleen and finding a buyer for a hopped up V6 model that you want to sell might be hard).

I'd consider the WRX, if you can afford it - fast and easy to modify. Maybe even the RS-X, if you don't like the looks of the Subaru.

 

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>How shallow is that?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Don't dump her YET! Wait until she starts getting older and her boobs sag. Then dump her for a 19 year old student.

You could also likely find a good deal on a turbocharged SVT Focus as your second car heheh!

 

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by S. on Da 5:


The SVT isn't cheap though. She probably doesn't understand it. Just because the price isn't $30,000+ doesn't make it a cheap car.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Couldnt have put it better myself. I dont know how many times I have gotten into argument with friends about how if a car costs $30,000+ doesnt make it better than a car that costs $15,000.

 

I dated a VERY limber dancer for a while who hated all hatchbacks. Of course I was driving, and still am, a hatchback at the time. I realized that although she was very limber and attracted lots of attention she could never love me for who I am with/without a hatchback. Form should follow function. My current girlfriend doesn't care and even likes the Focus (but doesn't admit it in front of other people because she doesn't approve of my car obsession).

Giving someone what they want isn't always the best thing to do. By caving in on such a huge purchase you're conveying a message to her subconscious woman brain that says it's okay to walk all over you. You should have compromised instead. Just my opinion about life, regardless of cars.

Wait! Life without cars!? NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

 

Just want to say, who care what the woman says, mine didn't like the svt either but then after hearing about it and seeing pictures all the time she has converted. Who know, but as long as you are happy with your choice there is no problem. But who wears the pant in that relationship? j/k

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Soon to be SVT, ordered and waiting
97 Mustang (POS, its a 6)-filtercharger, dual flowmasters
66 Mustang-cam, carb700cfm, headers, dual flowmaster, shift kit, stall convertor.

 

If you care at all, you will read this post as well:

One of the reasons why I choose the SVT Focus and will STILL choose the SVT Focus over all the others, even though there are upcomers that may or may not beat it, is because my PERSONAL needs match those of the car in terms of utilization, performance, economy and design sense. NONE of these criteria would ever be replaced or compromised by someone else's remarks. I would advise you to truly believe in yourself and your own abilities to make decisions based upon your own judgement and not to let others cloud it (although considering it is only through politeness of yourself).

My own GF would not be driving a car like this, nor does she wish it. But what she DOES respect is my decision and why i am just so crazily monogamous

about the car! No one else would have ever thought I'd be driving this sort of car. But obviously, a lot of them do not know me well enough. My GF does, and does not question my decision in purchasing the SVT Focus. She actually loves me MORE for being so dedicated and loyal to something I really like!

Yes, others HAVE deemed the vehicle to be very girlish or even a "gaymobile" (no offence intended). This only means that they have not driven the car nor do they know about its potential. You can't beat the handling and the quality for its price. Why do you think it's the #1 selling car in the WORLD?

All in all, as long as the car makes you happy, and as long as you won't have any regrets, you shall live healthy.

In other, more direct words, GET THE SVT FOCUS.

[This message has been edited by focusben (edited 07-14-2001).]

 

my GF looked at my new focus
and said this:

But it has no ass!!!.....
why cant you buy a car with an ass...

obviously she is not a hatchback fan....
but considering she has a escort its not all bad...


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www.topproducer.com

 

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by RiTzBiTz:
my GF looked at my new focus
and said this:

But it has no ass!!!.....
why cant you buy a car with an ass...

obviously she is not a hatchback fan....
but considering she has a escort its not all bad...


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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Actually, I happen to know a loser who said that he likes the Mazda 323 (hatchback) because it's very similar to the "female ass" and its "bulbous" shape.

What a loser, eh? Thank goodness this person is out of my life!

(Sorry for the bluntness.)

 

I think I would have told her, "Honey, as long as you're in the car, it will have an ass".

Really - where do you guys find these women?

 

umm hay Terry did you show her My Focus? And um oh yeh My Bullitt? You really should have autocrossed Sunday. I won't be at the next one but I will be at the one at the end of the Aug. I WILL BE THE ON DRIVING THE SILVER FOCUS. Gonna let the wife take the Stang (women??? go figure). I just hope she doesn't get mad when I whup her in the 4 banger. Hope to see ya out there next time it was nice meeting ya.


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Silver 2000 Zx3
Motorsport pulleys, Drop in K&N Filter,H&R springs
Indiglo gauges, best quarter mile 16.4 @82mph
2001 Bullitt Mustang(green of course)
St. Louis, MO

 

"Oh and here is a cool SVT Focus wallpaper from that site: http://www.focusfrenzy.com/wallpaper/nightsvt1024.jpg"


And the cool guy behind the wheel is none other than our (SVT's) own Matt Porath.. he should sue for the use of his image!

[This message has been edited by svt_grrl (edited 07-17-2001).]

 

Wait, Matt got to drive the SVT Focus around all day while they took pictures??

I thought I liked that guy... but now...

JEALOUSY

>8^)
ER

 

You should have put off buying the car until you were married, assuming you marry the strumpet. Anyway, if she were your wife, she would find bigger issues to be concerned with - - like how you hang the toilet paper. I broke up with a chick when I was young and single because she didn't like my dog. Gee, sure was a hard way for her to find out just how important she was to me. I wonder if she told her friends that I left her for a dog? Would have done the same thing to any woman who didn't like my car too. My wife doesn't like the way my Focus rides - - 5 speed doesn't help either. BUT, she's happy as long as it is the car that I want. That is a true woman. Drop the $itch and get the car, you'll be a happier man.

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Infra-red Street Edition sedan - - this baby was unplanned, and what a nice surprise it has been. Waitin' on the Iceman group buy to go through.

 

If the perception is the key for your girl, then just go get a sport bike like a Yamaha R1 for 9,000 and with the 20 grand you saved from not buying the Mustang, you can have your Focus too.

It's funny how that works - you can go out and spend $8,000 on a crotch rocket and be considered "cool", but spend $30 on a Mustang and your just another Ford owner...

Get the bike to please the girl, and then get the car you really want - the Focus...