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Okay, so I am definitely getting snows for my SVT as a winter in the Conti's made me cry. I am debating between the WS-50s and the Winter Sport M2/M3 in a 205/55/R16. Which would you go for? I know that the WS-50's are an incredible snow tire, but Philly does not see as much snow as Michigan and the NE. I would like to maintain some driving characteristics of the SVT which is why I am leaning towards the Winter Sports. All opinions welcomed
 

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If you want to be able to drive fast & corner hard during good winter weather times go with Wintersport M2's.

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If you want to be able to drive fast & corner hard during good winter weather times go with Wintersport M2's.

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How are they as a snow tire? Basically to get home if it is snowing.
 

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They're still very good in the snow . . . night and day difference versus original stock SVT tires and many all-season tires. If you driven on Blizzak WS-50's they take awhile getting used to because of the soft sidewalls & squirminess caused by having tread blocks that have lot of sipes and biting edges. If you were in Buffalo they would probably be the way to go but for your area might be an overkill. Check out for indepedant reviews at:

http://www.tirerack.com/a.jsp?a=DG2&url=/survey/SurveyComments.jsp&additionalComments=y&tireMake=Dunlop&tireModel=Winter+Sport+M2&commentStatus=P

to see what other drivers have experienced with them.
 

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They look like a good deal. So, when is the latest I should buy some snows?
 

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Right now stock looks good . . . but to be safe do it the end of this month or early next.


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You need to check this out FIRST:
www.nokiantyres.com
Let me know if you have questions, but NOKIAN invented snow tires over 70 years ago. If you can't find a distributor locally, let me know, I'll get them for you.
 

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My wife has the m2's on her front drive audi and they rock. Wish I had spent the extra money to get them. I was given some bridgestones that had been used for 2 seasons and they were horrible. From what I understand only the top layer of rubber is any good.
 

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You need to check this out FIRST:
www.nokiantyres.com
Let me know if you have questions, but NOKIAN invented snow tires over 70 years ago. If you can't find a distributor locally, let me know, I'll get them for you.
Do wat he sez ^
 

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You need to check this out FIRST:
www.nokiantyres.com
Let me know if you have questions, but NOKIAN invented snow tires over 70 years ago. If you can't find a distributor locally, let me know, I'll get them for you.
How much do they run? I do not need hardcore snows b/c philly is not that bad, but something that will get me through the averse conditions that may pop up
 

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Cy,

What is the difference between the M2's and M3's?
 

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I have the M2s for my SVT and concur, they are great. More then adequate for Michigan winters and still maintain the character of the car in the dry. I think the Blizzaks will be overkill for your use.
 

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The M3's are V speed-rated (149) instead of H (130). The bead construction of the tires is similar there probably will not be a handling difference.

The M3's have a little bit more of a directional tread pattern which should be better of hydroplaning resistance and slush evacuation.

M3's would be a slightly better choice in those sizes where both tires are available.
 

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The M3's are V speed-rated (149) instead of H (130). The bead construction of the tires is similar there probably will not be a handling difference.

The M3's have a little bit more of a directional tread pattern which should be better of hydroplaning resistance and slush evacuation.

M3's would be a slightly better choice in those sizes where both tires are available.
Thanks for all of your help. I will be ordering the M3's then in a few weeks. Right now I am negotiating on some used Focus wheels (cant bear to spend $500 on rims that have the sole purpose of being destroyed by salt). Once that is all worked out, its tire time. Thanks again
 

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I have the M2s for my SVT and concur, they are great. More then adequate for Michigan winters and still maintain the character of the car in the dry. I think the Blizzaks will be overkill for your use.
Bummer the M2 and M3 are not available in 195/60/15
Any word if they will be???
 

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205-55-R16 will make my speedo 1.1% slower than stock. That should be fine, right?
 

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One thing about Blizzaks, Goodyear UltraGrips and some other winter tires: the special grippy tread compound only goes about to half the tread depth. You get about two winters (max) out of them, then they become a 4-season tires. Ask about this when you buy and watch out for private sales of used Blizzaks!

Check out the Toyo Observe line of winter tires. Their special tread compound has imbedded, ground walnut shells for added grip on ice and that compound goes the full tread depth. Their Garit HT lines looks nasty for grip, fits 16-inch Foci and is popular in this part of Canada.
 
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