It seems like you're just looking for any and every way to beat these guys down. Like Ron said, let them make their product and if it doesn't sell, they're smart guys. They've been doing this longer than a lot of sponsors here. They'll figure it out.200 for 4 inch tips? Wtf. We don't need titanium NASA grade tips. You can go buy two great tips from any auto zone for less than 50 dollars. But if you wanna make an exhaust with that ugly single tip, go for it. Good luck paying your "bills"
Perhaps your dyno as well? I know you guys use a Mustang dyno.The difference between OUR dyno work and others who have higher claims, many times, is we tell the truth.
You also need to look at the type of dyno used and, location of the shops. You can take any of the 4 cars in question and, put them on each of the dynos and get a different result. Further more, take any of those cars to the dyno I use and, all 4 will make less than what each shop made on their dyno. A few locals have gone from the dyno I use to, Buschur, AMS and Pure all, with different results that were, very expected.Perhaps your dyno as well? I know you guys use a Mustang dyno.
FYI, here are the comparable dyno pulls from the various vendors:
FSWerks: stock 226/269
COBB: stock 234/281
Buschur: stock 223/231
Agreed. Too many factors and too many variables. I remember when I had my S4 and PES came out with a supercharger for it. They had a dyno showing some great numbers but when customers who bought it took their car to the track ( 1/4 mile ), they were consistently slower than the guys who just had bolt ons.Fake numbers vs real numbers lol... You just said it yourself... Numbers. It is a tool used to show gains and losses. Who cares what the numbers actually are.
Agreed. Just cause a car puts out more power doesn't mean it'll be faster on the street or track. You can gain peak power and actually accelerate slower. I let my 1/4 mile times reflect my mods.Fake numbers vs real numbers lol... You just said it yourself... Numbers. It is a tool used to show gains and losses. Who cares what the numbers actually are.