Cam Install !EVERYONE MUST READ THIS POST!

artin · Nov 10, 2002

ok first off it is almost 2 am here and i just got home From what wAs the worst And best install of my ife EVERONE MUST READ THIS POST SO THE SAME THING THAT HAPPEND TO ME DOSENT HAPPEN TO THEM

********** WHEN INSTALLING CAMS MAKE SURE THE ENGIN IS HOT!!!!!!!!

ONCE AGAIN WHEN INSTALLING CAMS MAKE SURE THE ENGIN IS HOT!!!!!

THE CAM GURDLE BOLTS WILL COME OFF MUCH MUCH MUCH EASIER!!!!!!

WE STRIPED 4 OF THE CAM BOLTS TRYING TO TAKE THEM OFF

THAT DIDANT WORK SO WE GOT THE MAKITA AND GOT TO DRILLING THE HEADS OF THE BOLTS OFF!!

VERY TIME CONSUMING
METAL SHAVINGS IN MY MOTOR ( ILE CHANGE OIL TOMARO MORning)

THIS WASENT BECASUE WE DID ANYTHING WRONG OR WE DIDANT KNOW WHAT WE WERE DOING THESE WERE PROS INSTALLING MY CAMS

FIRST OF MIKE (KINAKOBA) YOU ARE THE AN! I OWE YOU BIG TIME

TURBO JOE MORGAN WOW UR A LIFE SAVOR

JORDAN (JLATIMER) YOU ROCK!

CRANE 2 CAMS KICK ASSSSS

THY PULLLL LIKE HEL 4-6 TOUSAND RPM

WOZERS

PLEASE TAKE MY ADVICE!!!!!

*Edit on title so people know what they are clicking on*

[ 11-10-2002, 09:54 AM: Message edited by: Ducman69 ]

Jays2000ZX3 · Nov 10, 2002

IT IS SO ANNOYING WHEN PEOPLE WRITE N CAPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I mean, you can still get your point accross without using caps!

Anyways, you talking about the cam keepers? The reverse hex bolts? I mean, they are only supposed to be tightened down at 19NM, so they should be hard to remove at all, I have done 5 Cam installs, with cold engines, and no problems?

Bimmerman9 · Nov 10, 2002

i haven't had this problem and i've done 2 cam installs and 1 cam gear install . the only problem we really had was the stock cam gear bolts man thos t55 bolts suck .we barely got them out on Carizmes car and we had to take drastic measures on racerx's car .other wise everything else went smoothly

eddyo · Nov 10, 2002

is there any extra mods that should be completed before installing some stage 2 cams? and would it be recommended for a daily driver, i wanna hang on to that reliability factor!

bugshack · Nov 10, 2002

No need to install cams while hot. When your engine was orignally built it was cold. If bolts were being stripped something with the installation went wrong.

FocusXny · Nov 10, 2002

maybe they were stipped because they were hot. Well its possible!

UltegraSTI · Nov 10, 2002

plz cut it out w/the caps lock man

-Ult

Blue01Street · Nov 10, 2002

Your post is annoying in many ways. Caps lock, full of s*** facts, giving bad advice. If you use the right tools to start with you won't have a problem doing this on a cold engine. I've done it several times.

spankenstein · Nov 10, 2002

Don't use an 8mm hex socket and use the proper star socket. They won't strip then. I did it too.

BTW, I wouldn't think that removing the cams while the engines was hot would be a good idea. The service CD even warns about removing the spark plugs when the are hot.

BlueZTS · Nov 10, 2002

He is YELLING! Caps are appropriate.

Correct me if I am wrong artin, but wouldn’t the metal expand when the engine is hot, making the bolt removal more difficult? Please explain why a warm engine would help.

I think that something unique to your engine (ie over-tightened from the factory?) caused your troubles. Or did you use the correct size star socket, I know that the sizes are close enough that you may think you have the correct size, but one size bigger is actually the correct size. I found this out when removing the studs for my header. I thought I had the right size, but when it started slipping on the head, I tried one size up and there was no play in the socket. (Damn ford for using star and torx, what the hell is wrong with a nice hex head?)

I am glad you got it working though, how does it idle?

[ 11-10-2002, 09:46 AM: Message edited by: BlueZTS ]

Blue01Street · Nov 10, 2002

Originally posted by BlueZTS:
He is YELLING! Caps are appropriate.

Yelling is not appropriate when you're yelling gibberish.

Just like Chicken Little running around with that "THE SKY IS FALLING" bs.

Same thing here. Oh, gee I screwed up my cam install so you guys will too.

FocusOnMyZeTec · Nov 10, 2002

Originally posted by Jays2000ZX3:
IT IS SO ANNOYING WHEN PEOPLE WRITE N CAPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I mean, you can still get your point accross without using caps!

quit being a hoe bag.

artin · Nov 10, 2002

i was only yelling because i was allittle frusterated after that install!!!!!!!!!

but look we striped 4 of the bolts JOE MORGAN had 2 extra to get the other to we went to kinakobas car and took them off on a hot engin they came off like butter!!!!!!

look dont say my tools were wrong or that we didant know what we were doing

THESE WERE PROS WORKING ON MY CAR

I DONT THINK ANYBODY IN THESE BOARDS HAS MORE KNOWLEGE THAN TURBO JOE MORGAN

I WASENT BOSSING ANYBODY AROUND I WAS JUST TRYING TO GIVE ALL YOU GUYS A TIP

i guess you had to be there to see it man it was horrible~!

noresull · Nov 10, 2002

Originally posted by artin:
i was only yelling because i was allittle frusterated after that install!!!!!!!!!

but look we striped 4 of the bolts JOE MORGAN had 2 extra to get the other to we went to kinakobas car and took them off on a hot engin they came off like butter!!!!!!

look dont say my tools were wrong or that we didant know what we were doing

THESE WERE PROS WORKING ON MY CAR

I DONT THINK ANYBODY IN THESE BOARDS HAS MORE KNOWLEGE THAN TURBO JOE MORGAN

I WASENT BOSSING ANYBODY AROUND I WAS JUST TRYING TO GIVE ALL YOU GUYS A TIP

i guess you had to be there to see it man it was horrible~!

Yeah, we "un-professionals" appreciat yore tipz!

D2KFOCUS · Nov 10, 2002

hmm... i always thougt working on an engine while its hot was unpractical.. i mean cmon ITS FREAKIN HOT! its not like you can get burned or anything.(sarcasm)

artin · Nov 10, 2002

Originally posted by noresull:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by artin:
i was only yelling because i was allittle frusterated after that install!!!!!!!!!

but look we striped 4 of the bolts JOE MORGAN had 2 extra to get the other to we went to kinakobas car and took them off on a hot engin they came off like butter!!!!!!

look dont say my tools were wrong or that we didant know what we were doing

THESE WERE PROS WORKING ON MY CAR

I DONT THINK ANYBODY IN THESE BOARDS HAS MORE KNOWLEGE THAN TURBO JOE MORGAN

I WASENT BOSSING ANYBODY AROUND I WAS JUST TRYING TO GIVE ALL YOU GUYS A TIP

i guess you had to be there to see it man it was horrible~!

Yeah, we "un-professionals" appreciat yore tipz!<hr /></blockquote>YOUR WELCOME, LEARN FROM ME

airforcefocus · Nov 10, 2002

Originally posted by artin:
i was only yelling because i was allittle frusterated after that install!!!!!!!!!

but look we striped 4 of the bolts JOE MORGAN had 2 extra to get the other to we went to kinakobas car and took them off on a hot engin they came off like butter!!!!!!

look dont say my tools were wrong or that we didant know what we were doing

THESE WERE PROS WORKING ON MY CAR

I DONT THINK ANYBODY IN THESE BOARDS HAS MORE KNOWLEGE THAN TURBO JOE MORGAN

I WASENT BOSSING ANYBODY AROUND I WAS JUST TRYING TO GIVE ALL YOU GUYS A TIP

i guess you had to be there to see it man it was horrible~!

Please don't flame the advice, using the star socket is truly the BEST way to do it. I have used the wrong socket before and have stripped them, but not one since I have been using the star socket. I was there earlier in the day and watched someone use the wrong socket to change cams. Heck, like I said, I have done that before too, no disrespect to anyone involved. I am also NOT saying that they did not use the correct socket on your car either, the tip to use the correct star socket was a good one.

artin · Nov 10, 2002

yea and you also bought the seats i was gonna get

hahah its cool thanks for the advice!

Bmorezx3 · Nov 11, 2002

Originally posted by artin:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by noresull:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by artin:
i was only yelling because i was allittle frusterated after that install!!!!!!!!!

but look we striped 4 of the bolts JOE MORGAN had 2 extra to get the other to we went to kinakobas car and took them off on a hot engin they came off like butter!!!!!!

look dont say my tools were wrong or that we didant know what we were doing

THESE WERE PROS WORKING ON MY CAR

I DONT THINK ANYBODY IN THESE BOARDS HAS MORE KNOWLEGE THAN TURBO JOE MORGAN

I WASENT BOSSING ANYBODY AROUND I WAS JUST TRYING TO GIVE ALL YOU GUYS A TIP

i guess you had to be there to see it man it was horrible~!

Yeah, we "un-professionals" appreciat yore tipz!<hr /></blockquote>YOUR WELCOME, LEARN FROM ME

<hr /></blockquote>i'd call that a big fly by. i think you missed the sarcasm.

Nate

artin · Nov 11, 2002

i didant miss the sarcasem hence the smiley face with the tounge

like the one i have right <--- there!

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