Tonight I shall pray to the car gods for a turbo diesel fiesta in america.

 

I understand that it is a financial strain to just up and start selling a small diesel car in this country, when you have never done it before.....

.....but with the "green' fever going on right now, wouldn't this turn enough heads and raise enough eyebrows to make it worth it?

Th0s numbers are unheard of in this country, not even the hybrids can touch that....ESPECIALLY on the highway! I know I would be interested in one. This would be a huge "in your face" to Toyota and its beloved Prius. Plus, the Fiesta would be able to boast ZERO emission of smug, unlike the prius. :lol:

 

I understand that it is a financial strain to just up and start selling a small diesel car in this country, when you have never done it before.....

.....but with the "green' fever going on right now, wouldn't this turn enough heads and raise enough eyebrows to make it worth it?

Th0s numbers are unheard of in this country, not even the hybrids can touch that....ESPECIALLY on the highway! I know I would be interested in one. This would be a huge "in your face" to Toyota and its beloved Prius. Plus, the Fiesta would be able to boast ZERO emission of smug, unlike the prius. :lol:

and it wont look like **** while performing! yay!

I like it!

 

It would be a gamble for Ford to release this, I am sure, but with proper marketing, and demonstrating real world MPG figures in their advertising could make that gamble worth while.

The Fiesta is a sharp looking car, the best looking IMO in the B-seg market. Putting a super efficient diesel in it would put it over the top, and be the only one of it's kind in it's class here.

 

Seriously, it seems like this is exactly the kind of car that could finally change perception about modern diesels in this country. With BMW's recent commercials explaining the benefits of diesel, this could be the everyman's example. Diesel in my area is only about $.05-.10 more than premium right now too, so there's not even much of a punishment there.

 

boost that sucker to the moon!
-bix

 

GAWD I want this engine! I either want a really efficient diesel or a high power turbo model, not really too excited about the 120hp 1.6 motor because I know what else is out there.

 

Reading those numbers made my pants wet.

 

Bringing that here seems like a no brainer. Doesn't VW have excellent deisel sales?

 

All I have to say is....."Why hasn't Ford already got this car over here?" This car would sell like hotcakes.

 

Honestly, if they kept most of the build quality and looks and just left the drivetrain the same I can't see why this car wouldnt sell like mad.

People could get out of debt they'd save so much money on fuel.

People would save so much money they could put their kids through college.

People would save so much money they could buy a yacht.

People would save so much money they could reboost the entire economy.

People would save so much money they could save the world economy and start helping third world countries with all that extra money.

This Fiesta could potentially end world hunger.

So, Ford, will you end world hunger or not?

 

Dear Mr. Mullaly,

With the release of the new Fiesta ECOnetic, you have proven that modern diesel technology is viable, and indeed stylish and sexy.

If you want your company to be existence in the next two years, you have no choice but to release this car in the U.S. market. With mileage figures in a package like that people will be convinced that diesel technology is not something to be taken lightly.

 

The car would be expensive is part of the problem and if you try and cheap it down you've got problems. I think that's Ford's biggest reason for not bringing it here. The car would retail for about 25K when you can spend 5k More and get a Fusion Hyrbrid which gets almost the exact same mpg bigger car for such a little price difference. I want this car over here I really do but that price is a nasty hurdle to jump.

 

The car would be expensive is part of the problem and if you try and cheap it down you've got problems. I think that's Ford's biggest reason for not bringing it here. The car would retail for about 25K when you can spend 5k More and get a Fusion Hyrbrid which gets almost the exact same mpg bigger car for such a little price difference. I want this car over here I really do but that price is a nasty hurdle to jump.

How do you have ANY clue to how much that car would cost here????? :dunno:

 

The car would be expensive is part of the problem and if you try and cheap it down you've got problems. I think that's Ford's biggest reason for not bringing it here. The car would retail for about 25K when you can spend 5k More and get a Fusion Hyrbrid which gets almost the exact same mpg bigger car for such a little price difference. I want this car over here I really do but that price is a nasty hurdle to jump.

The car is not going to be that price in the states. It should cost less than the US Focus, and that is going to be the reality when it is released here......in gasoline version. It will have to be priced for its class. If they brought the diesel, that would bump up the price a bit, but not to $25k, lol.

The Fusion hybrid couldn't touch those numbers with a ten foot pole. It should max around 40mpg city.

 

The car would be expensive is part of the problem and if you try and cheap it down you've got problems. I think that's Ford's biggest reason for not bringing it here. The car would retail for about 25K when you can spend 5k More and get a Fusion Hyrbrid which gets almost the exact same mpg bigger car for such a little price difference. I want this car over here I really do but that price is a nasty hurdle to jump.

I'm gonna go fart some numbers too. Then we'll have a REAL debate :what:

 

I can't imagine it being that much more expensive than the gas engine, the TDI jetta is mid-range price in the jetta line-up. And the article seems to say that it is cheaper than a Zetec tdci model, which is the upscale one right?

 

Well, BusinessWeek quoted about that same $25k price, so I'm sure they just farted it out too right? :lol:

Actually, it looks like they mostly just did a currency conversion, but that's hardly ever how it really works. It sounds like the cost problem is that the diesel engines are not built in NA, and supposedly it would be cost prohibitive to set up a whole new factory or retool one just for this engine.

The quote from a Ford exec. in that article is just soooooo depressing: "We just don't think North and South America would buy that many diesel cars," says Fields. :thumbdown

 

Well, BusinessWeek quoted about that same $25k price, so I'm sure they just farted it out too right? :lol:

Actually, it looks like they mostly just did a currency conversion, but that's hardly ever how it really works. It sounds like the cost problem is that the diesel engines are not built in NA, and supposedly it would be cost prohibitive to set up a whole new factory or retool one just for this engine.

The quote from a Ford exec. in that article is just soooooo depressing: "We just don't think North and South America would buy that many diesel cars," says Fields. :thumbdown

Well if "Business Week" did a simple currency conversion what does that tell you about them?

Also a simple currency conversion from British Pounds would end up at $17,904 at current rates. Still not $25k.

Want Euro's? 13,992 still not $25k.

So numbers do seem to be coming out of the "wind".

 

Here's the link to the article: http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/carreviews/firstdrives/233833/ford_fiesta_econetic.html

If Ford doesn't bring it Maybe Mazda will in the 2? :dunno:

 

Hands down I'd buy this car tomorrow if it was available here And Birdman, I really hope that you were just throwing out a hypothetical number for conversation's sake and weren't wanting to be taken seriously :dunno:

-Brian

 

I just bought the new issue of Motor Trend, and right on the front cover, with an exclamation point even, the Fusion hybrid is listed at 41 mpg(!< motor trend's emphasis)

Um, maybe I can no longer do math, I was a history major, but I think that 75 mpg is more than 41 mpg.

Why is this car not here right now?!?!?!?!?!?one1:bang:

Seriously, people would line up around the block to get a car that gets real-world mileage like that.

 

We all would love it- the cost to build the diesel here is a killer. A factory conversion would be needed to build the motors

 

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Seriously, people would line up around the block to get a car that gets real-world mileage like that.

HOLD IT! everyone forgot something.

Transmission: Five-speed manual, front-wheel drive

DIESELS in EUROPE are allmost ALLWAYS MTX.
i have yet to see a ford recently that had a diesel auto.

is there an ATX that ford will "fart out" for a diesel?
none exist right now for a car like that.

hardly anyone buys stick shift here so they wont sell.
anyther reason they wont sell is that its a tiny slow diesel engine.
in a tiny little bubble car.
probably for way too much money.
its an extra several THOUSAND for the powerstroke.
and those were a useful engine several years back.

i hear its a fairly decent car

but i am not convinced, and i doubt the rest of america will do anything other than laugh.

its a stickshift bubble car with a tiny diesel engine.
america is not europe.

 

The car could be a hit with the younger crowd maybe but over all the costs are just too much. The car itself will be expensive it won't be cheap. Ford would be much better bringing the KA over for now.