FordChips Anyone?

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dongnong

Discussion Starter · Oct 25, 2003

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Has anyone ACTUALLY had their ECU reflashed by FordChips yet or is this all still theoretical? I remember ONE person on here doing it, but anyone else??? I received an e-mail back stating they had a specific program for the JRSC SVT Focus....turnaround time was 5 days, and approximate cost was $325 + 15 shipping. I hate to be the one to try first...especially with how predicatable my car is

Anyone want to volunteer first?

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blownsvt

· #2 · Oct 25, 2003

Not me..Im going to a local guy to do tunning with my JRSC. But, what hp and trq numbers where they claiming with the JR? If they are nice numbers, then I might give them a call and see what they are talking about, because my tuner wants 450.

belacyrf

· #3 · Oct 25, 2003

Has anyone ACTUALLY had their ECU reflashed by FordChips yet or is this all still theoretical? I remember ONE person on here doing it, but anyone else??? I received an e-mail back stating they had a specific program for the JRSC SVT Focus....turnaround time was 5 days, and approximate cost was $325 + 15 shipping. I hate to be the one to try first...especially with how predicatable my car is

Anyone want to volunteer first?

I'd completely trust FordChip. I'm not sure they'll be able to gain you a whole ton of power, but I'm sure they would fix alot of issues. You might see ALOT nicer low end torque out of it. But thats just a guess.

Fordchip is the one that tuned the Vortech (Saleen09's car)
Fordchip has tuned about 10+ SVT foci with good success, but there isn't alot of top end power to be gained by it, and they JUST figured out the SVT Spark issues, which is very cool! I'm thinking throttle response could be improved with low end torque improved as well. But I wouldnt' expect a Ton gains.

Just the confidence in knowing they did it right!

1turbofocus

· #4 · Oct 25, 2003

belacryf if you only knew

Tom

dongnong

Discussion Starter · #5 · Oct 26, 2003

belacryf if you only knew

Tom

Tom doesn't like to help out...he likes to keep things to himself so he can cash in....and not give away any 'secrets.'

Bela, I'm not looking for top end gains. Just raise the rev limiter a bit and smooth out the power. Along with any other issues they can correct. Just like with the Hondata with the RSX-S...I'm hoping it smoothes things out so dramatically, that it can make a big difference in 1/4 results and daily driving.

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SonicBluSVT 02'

· #6 · Oct 26, 2003

why do you want to raise the rev limiter? To run the car higher? It is set at a certain rpm for a reason.

just curious?

belacyrf

· #7 · Oct 26, 2003

Actually the SVT has plenty of room up top! The Jackson SVT is run almost to 8K RPM's. So raising the rev limiter is not a problem. Heck you could "remove" the rev limiter. But then you have to trust your driving.

Yes FordChip could do this!

Tom.. I absolutely do know. I don't know this Chris guy, he's the one you have a problem with. But Jerry with Fordchip is a stand up guy! And knows his stuff!!! There is no doubt about that.

SonicBluSVT 02'

· #8 · Oct 26, 2003

not saying it doesn't have the room to go up, but you start really putting a lot of stress on the internals as well as the valves and such going that high.

South.O.C.

· #9 · Oct 26, 2003

The Valves and springs will limit the 8000 RPM
And if you are squeezing 1/4miles out of it ......... it will not work for long

I was talking with one SVT owner and his engine builder said what Ford has in there is not that good.

Maybe with the prototype Heads from FocusSport it will work now. Randy said that's where some of the prob was.......Hmmmmm

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belacyrf

· #10 · Oct 26, 2003

The Valves and springs will limit the 8000 RPM
And if you are squeezing 1/4miles out of it ......... it will not work for long

I was talking with one SVT owner and his engine builder said what Ford has in there is not that good.

Maybe with the prototype Heads from FocusSport it will work now. Randy said that's where some of the prob was.......Hmmmmm

I'm sorry but I don't agree with this. We have stronger valve springs than the zx3 engine does, and they were put there to allow for the 7200 redline. I doubt OEM's build cars with springs that are AT their limit at Redline.

Randy's head is going to do nothing to the valve springs, so a higher redline will have the exact same weaknesses that it currently has. I sincerely doubt that the SVT engine is not capable of having the redline raised to say.. 7800 or so. But none of us really know, it's all guestimates.

1turbofocus

· #11 · Oct 26, 2003

I know and the SVT will do 7800.00 with NO problem in stock form anyhting above that and i would look into changine the springs just for safety and i would NEVER totaly remove the Rev.Lim.

Tom

SonicBluSVT 02'

· #12 · Oct 26, 2003

I know and the SVT will do 7800.00 with NO problem in stock form anyhting above that and i would look into changine the springs just for safety and i would NEVER totaly remove the Rev.Lim.

Tom

Tom, how do you know it will do it with no problem? I mean, just because people can push them to that rpm or higher doesn't mean it is safe for the valve/springs. Sure right now pushing them that high you may not notice anything and I don't doubt they can go that high. But, did you find out exactly what the brand or specs of the springs/valves to know what they can be pushed to safely?

In a new head, and I don't know who this Randy guy is(if thats his name) or what he has done to his head, but if you change the valves and springs to something made for high revving motors then obviously it is safer. However, then you have the rest of the motor to worry about and how that was built.

I would hate to see our spectacular flywheel come apart at 8k.

dongnong

Discussion Starter · #13 · Oct 26, 2003

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I just want to raise the rev limiter to 7500 specifically for the 1st to 2nd gear change. 1st gear is long enough, but if you launch it well it isn't so bad. It's the switch to 2nd that is the most damaging in the 1/4 because it falls just a bit far back on the tach to keep the power going. As far as I'm concerned the rest of the gears are spaced pretty well. And it's not like I'm taking it to 8000. Just moving it from 7200 to 7500. If they can add a smaller pulley and bump up the rev limiter on the JR Comp Car and it's been OK for a few months now, I *think* I might be OK. But then again, I'm no master of this...so time will tell. I'll probably wait until someone else does it anyway

I would never remove the rev-limiter or make it much higher anyway. I DON'T trust my driving

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blownsvt

· #14 · Oct 26, 2003

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I know and the SVT will do 7800.00 with NO problem in stock form anyhting above that and i would look into changine the springs just for safety and i would NEVER totaly remove the Rev.Lim.

Tom

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Tom, how do you know it will do it with no problem? I mean, just because people can push them to that rpm or higher doesn't mean it is safe for the valve/springs. Sure right now pushing them that high you may not notice anything and I don't doubt they can go that high. But, did you find out exactly what the brand or specs of the springs/valves to know what they can be pushed to safely?

In a new head, and I don't know who this Randy guy is(if thats his name) or what he has done to his head, but if you change the valves and springs to something made for high revving motors then obviously it is safer. However, then you have the rest of the motor to worry about and how that was built.

I would hate to see our spectacular flywheel come apart at 8k.

Hey Jason...Im gonna raise my rev limit to 7800...whattya think would have happened the other night if I was redline at 7800 in third...and then had my little accident?!?

....o wait that wouldnt have been funny...

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belacyrf

· #15 · Oct 26, 2003

The cars are non-interference, so there is no valve issues, our problems will be with the valve springs. As long as they are stiff enough to handle the higher RPM's you won't be floating a valve. And as Tom said, they should be plenty strong for 7800 RPM's.

Now the tranny? Well that's a different story. It's kind of scary having seen some peoples clutch disk shoot through their bell housings

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SonicBluSVT 02'

· #16 · Oct 27, 2003

Hey Jason...Im gonna raise my rev limit to 7800...whattya think would have happened the other night if I was redline at 7800 in third...and then had my little accident?!?

....o wait that wouldnt have been funny...

............

David, it would be pretty cool to see it happen. As long as I am no where near the car!

SteveO

· #17 · Oct 27, 2003

I had Fordchip tune my Bullitt, no regrets. When I get the chance I am gonna have them tune my SVT. Kinda hard to beat a guy that tunes Fords for a living. but hey what do I know I only built Fords for 9 years?

BlackSVT

· #18 · Oct 27, 2003

I don't know if anyone remembers this, but the first photos out of SVT in 2001 showed an 8,000 rpm redline. I've always wondered what "failure" during development made them move the limiter back down to 7200.

With the HP peak being so high, it would certainly be nicer if the limiter was a little higher, at least for that 1-2 shift as others have said.

dongnong

Discussion Starter · #19 · Oct 27, 2003

Well, it could have been that from 7200 to 8000 they weren't making enough power (or were losing power) to justify the 800RPMs. But you're right, it could have been a failure that caused them to drop it down.

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