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Freakin' crooked state inspection stations!!!

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#1 ·
:rant: :mad: :bang:

So, my girlfriend bought a '94 Chrystler LHS from my 80yo granddad Sunday. The thing is in imaculate condition inside & out. But my grandfather lives in PA & we live in MD. So we need to get the car inspected before we can get tags. I was in a rush so I found the only place willing to do the job TODAY. F'n place charges us $80 and then hands us a failed inspection with $1900 worth of repairs needed. Bull $#!+. They're talking about the car pulling to the right, & broken motor mounts & all kinds of garbadge like that. The tires on this car are practically brand new! We drove it 60 miles home from PA & it wasn't pulling in either direction. :bang:

So we wasted $80. Now I gotta find good place to have it inspected. Maybe I can find one that will give me a passing inspection with a wink & a nod & a $50 bill under the table or something. Anyone know of a place like that in MD?
 
#2 ·
I don't know of any in MD, but if we had that in MI, I know of at least two places I could get any car passed. Don't freak out about it bro, there are always mechanics and techs looking to make a few bucks any way they can.
 
#3 ·
Not freakin out. Just really annoyed. Wasted $80 and now I've got a real time crunch to get a passing inspection.
 
#5 ·
same that does sound lame a buddy of mine had to do that in cali and he said he new a guy that would just let anyone through for a cheap price

out here i just register it outside DMV area so I can run a straight through exaust haha
 
#6 ·
well are any of the things they said broken broken? or are they lieing? IF they said things were wrong with the car that are not isn't that fraud and can't you complain to your DMV?

Now if the things ARE really broken, you should get that fixed first.

dunno how that all works cuz my state does not have an inspection program. Just emmissions and they kept shutting that program down due to fraud. Something in the laws of my state is if they can't keep it fair, they can't have the program running. Everytime someone gets cought cheating the system, the whole program in the entire state gets shut down and the shop gets ALLOT of negative publisity licenses suspended, testing equipment removed, and HUGE fines.
 
#7 ·
Well, yes if they are lieing it can be considered fraud. However, consider the motivation... Just like any shop that tries to drum up extra business by charging naive customers for excessive & unnecessary repairs, only with this they have the extra leverage that if the customer doesn't pay for what ever repairs the shop claims that shop won't give them the mandatory passing inspection sheet. The customer can go pay again for another shop to reinspect but then they're out for at least the cost of the first inspection.

In all honesty, there is a small chance that the shop is being honest. So I'm going to have to spend the day going over these things one by one & rulling them out. However, I know PA has a similar type of inspection program that unlike MD, cars need to be inspected every 2 years. Given that this car is currently registered in PA & still has a valid PA inspection sticker, and given that I know my grandfather isn't the type of person to neglect his car or even wear on it that hard... some of these issues are HIGHLY... HIGHLY unlikely.

All I can say is that if this shop has tried to defraud me I will have to add another line about them in my signature & spread the word on other forums. It's the only practical recourse I have.
 
#8 ·
I would have it inspected at a dealership and then take the paper back to the inspector and ask him/her if they would like to reconsider before emailing several agentcies.
 
#9 ·
It is all regulated by the Maryland State Police.

I can almost gaurantee that none of it is fraud. The inspector can loose his license for a minimum of 6 months for anything that they let slide through or try and rough you up on.

They have to run the car over either a scuff gauge or alignment machine as part of an inspection and measure side slip. Anything over I think 15 feet per something fails.

Maryland has one of the toughest inspection processes on the east coast if not in the US. It sucks.
 
#10 ·
TuV is a bitch as well. The inspection stations here are getting worse also. 74 db exaust systems, no 20" wheels unless you can prove they are OEM, crap like that.
 
#11 ·
oh man .. and I thought PA was bad .. the worst thing that happened to me was the shop coming back telling me I barely passed on tires and need new ones soon.

PS: We still keep the other car (my gf's) registered in TX, so save the trouble of inspections .. they are so lax, they will MAIL you new stickers every year .. M-azing ..

Igor
 
#13 ·
Oreo said:
:rant: :mad: :bang:

So, my girlfriend bought a '94 Chrystler LHS from my 80yo granddad Sunday. The thing is in imaculate condition inside & out. But my grandfather lives in PA & we live in MD. So we need to get the car inspected before we can get tags. I was in a rush so I found the only place willing to do the job TODAY. F'n place charges us $80 and then hands us a failed inspection with $1900 worth of repairs needed. Bull $#!+. They're talking about the car pulling to the right, & broken motor mounts & all kinds of garbadge like that. The tires on this car are practically brand new! We drove it 60 miles home from PA & it wasn't pulling in either direction. :bang:

So we wasted $80. Now I gotta find good place to have it inspected. Maybe I can find one that will give me a passing inspection with a wink & a nod & a $50 bill under the table or something. Anyone know of a place like that in MD?
$80 for an inspection..........that's robbery in itself.....

dave.
 
#14 ·
Not if you look at what all Md makes you do.

You have to pull all 4 wheels and measure pads and rotors then measure runout side to side.

Check for any kind of fluid leak at all. Check for rust, any kind of modifications. There is a 100 point sheet they give us to hang on the wall of everything that is checked.

The hands on test to become an inspector takes over 2 hours to complete with a Trooper standing over you the whole time.

Most places charge 1 - 1.5 hours labor to do the inspection.
 
#16 ·
Yep. That's pretty much it. :) I don't want to turn this thread into a debate on ethics. But within a certain margin of "hurts noone", I'm much more willing to accept crookedness in my favor then the highway robbery that I've already been subjected to. Especially when said crookedness is just crooked enough in the opposite direction to perfectly balance & counter the crookedness of the highway robbery. Sorta like, if Nancy Karrigan broke Tanya Harding's legs. "We're even now. No harm no fowl. :)"
 
#18 ·
And people always slam CA.:lol:

No smog check for the first 5 years and then only every other year. And just a smog check, no other inspection. On non smog years all done by mail.

Having been to B-More I'm guessing they don't care about body work.:party:
 
#20 · (Edited)
WTF there is no law regulating the cost of inspections in most states?

I know in CT immisions testing prices are set by the state. If you want to do the testing you HAVE to follow the state priceing regulations. You have no say in setting the price. The shop keeps 1/2 the fee, and the State gets the other 1/2 (and the state provides the shop with a dyno, the shop has to have a dedicated bay for testing, have dedicated parking for "testing customers," must turn over each car within a time limit of like 15 minutes, they can not detain the car, and if the car fails the first time they must offer 1 retest for free after an attempt to fix the car is made. the whole process is also watched by like 3 security web cams connected directally to a central monitorning center at the DMV. Yes in CT ALL inspections have a live feed of security cameras of the shop showing the door the car comes in from, the back of the car that the test probe is in the tail pipe, the plate, and they watch the actual dyno terminal to make sure only the registered testers are using it. They also have a feed of everything the person puts into the dyno.

If you suspected frad you can notify the DMV i believe they can pull up the video recording from your car, and all the info they put into they dyno test machene when they tested your car. If you cheat the system the PERSON running it i believe gets like a $10,000 fine, and the shop gets a higher fine. The shop automatically loses its inspection license, and they remove the dyno from the shop.

so the shop can set there own pricing on inspection, they are not monitored, and there is no easy way to report fraud to the DMV? You can't just bring the origonal inspection sheet to the DMV with another passing inspection and get them a HUGE fine and you a refund of your $80?

It seams there is no central computer set up on this either. I know here if your car fales immisions you have to bring the Repair Order from the shop you had it fixed at with you when you get restested. They put the amount of money you spent into the system and if the car still fails, but you spent over a certain amount trying to fix it they will wave your for 1 year.
 
#21 ·
^^^Each shop sets its own price and it is recorded by the trooper that comes and inspects your station.

You can request an increase once per year.

He was not having an emissions inspection. Those are done only by the state, no independants.

He was having a Maryland State Safety Inspection.

Emmission inspections around here on OBD2 cars is a joke. Hook up the computer and check for codes and away you go.
 
#22 ·
I know it was a safety inspection, i was using emmisions testing as an example because we don't have a general inspection at all, and that was the closest thing to it we have. NY that does both, it is all done at the same time, by the same people, in the same location. It is not done seporetally.

For how many issues they had with the Emmissions testing here i don't think they ever want to try to do an inspection program! CT law i guess puts the state at more liability. If the program is corrupt and the inspection falsley tells you to replace parts you don't need, and you find that out, you can sue the shop AND the state of CT. Every time the state finds a way to defraud the system, the program is automatically shut down, people are giving wavers till the program is reinstated, and they revise the whole system...

CT used to have a central company do the testing who was found to be accepting bribes, so they shut that down and suspended testing for about 3 years wile the tried to figure out a more fraud proof system. Then the current system has been suspended 2-3 times after they started it to make it more secure and free of fraud and false fales.
 
#24 ·
Oreo said:
Yep. That's pretty much it. :) I don't want to turn this thread into a debate on ethics. But within a certain margin of "hurts noone", I'm much more willing to accept crookedness in my favor then the highway robbery that I've already been subjected to. Especially when said crookedness is just crooked enough in the opposite direction to perfectly balance & counter the crookedness of the highway robbery. Sorta like, if Nancy Karrigan broke Tanya Harding's legs. "We're even now. No harm no fowl. :)"
You must have missed this post of mine.

My father was telling me that I should have let them know what I had in mind before hand. Basically, that if this inspection was a condition of the sale then they'd have been doing me a favor to get a good price. Vs. "hey guys, I just need to get tags on this thing. Not looking to make it in mint condition. Only the absolutely manditory stuff ok?" Maybe he has a point. In all fairness, I spent all day yesterday looking at things & some of the stuff this shop put down is legit. I just think they over-embellished a bit.
 
#25 ·
Everything you posted will not pass inspection.

Every car is inspected the same way now because Maryland has started sending in cars to be inspected with stuff messed up and if the inspector misses it they get written up and their licnese pulled.

It is a pain in the arse.
 
#26 ·
blueovaldave said:
Everything you posted will not pass inspection.

Every car is inspected the same way now because Maryland has started sending in cars to be inspected with stuff messed up and if the inspector misses it they get written up and their licnese pulled.

It is a pain in the arse.

This is very true