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got a new cam, what do ya\'ll think of the specs??

ok, so i know its not waaaaay hot or anything, for the price, its nice. i was just looking for comments on what i might experience when i throw this in later.

its the stage 1 Crane cam for the CVH 1.9.
http://dab7.cranecams.com/SpecCard/DisplayCatalogCard.asp?PN=480511&B1=Display+Card

for those who dont want to look at the crane page,
Degrees Duration @ .050 Int./Exh.: 194/202
Degrees Advertised Duration Int./Exh.: 252/260
Degree Lobe Separation: 112
Open/Close @.050" Cam: 10/24 Lift Int./Exh.: 38/16
Lash Hot Int./Exh.: .000/.000
Gross Lift Int./Exh.: .413/.429

i know its better than stock, but i cant seem to find the average estimate on power gains with a stock small valve head on the 1.9 SEFI.

any thoughts?
 

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Re: got a new cam, what do ya\'ll think of the specs??

Man, I would have know idea on what the exact numbers would be but I wouldn't expect much unless you had head work done too.

E-mail escortfocus and ask them what there stage 1 cam will do for your car since they use those same crane cams!
 

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Re: got a new cam, what do ya\'ll think of the specs??

If you buy it direct from crane, it won't work in an spi becuase it's missing the camshaft sensor trigger.

Somehow efp modify's the crane cams for a trigger( I asked about them.). If you buy one from efp it will work in an spi.
 

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Re: got a new cam, what do ya\'ll think of the specs??

Spi for sure...come to find out it mightbe a stage 2 cam.. OOH! i hopes!

anywho, i dont expect much, just a slightly better pull while cruising from lower rpm and maybe some nicer hway driving..
 

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Re: got a new cam, what do ya\'ll think of the specs??

anywho, i dont expect much, just a slightly better pull while cruising from lower rpm and maybe some nicer hway driving..
I suspect you will be satisfied.


and oh yeah! You go jeff!
Pony spit rulz!
 

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Re: got a new cam, what do ya\'ll think of the specs??

If you buy it direct from crane, it won't work in an spi becuase it's missing the camshaft sensor trigger.

Somehow efp modify's the crane cams for a trigger( I asked about them.). If you buy one from efp it will work in an spi.
The 1.9 and 2.0 SPI have the same cam sensor in the same place?? So why would it work in one and not the other?
 

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Re: got a new cam, what do ya\'ll think of the specs??

pony has a 91 and 93 escort, they don't have cam sensors and that's why on the crane website it says 81-93.

http://www.cranecams.com/master/apps/ford1.htm
I guess the 94 and up had them and the crane cams will not work in them. It might be n easy mod for all i know, haven't taken the cam out of one of the spare heads yet to investigate.
 

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Re: got a new cam, what do ya\'ll think of the specs??

i coulda swore up and down that the 91 SEFI had a cam sensor.. in fact im sure it does for the sequential part of the acronym..

but sure enough, i called Crane and they said it would work in those years specified on teh website. the cams on 91 escorts were different than other years.. not in a good i wanna swap over way, just they were different.

i dont see why this particular cam shouldnt work in any of the 1.9+ CVH engines. its the 1.6 that has different journal sizes. the cam in the 88.5-96 1.9s is the same, and the 97-02 SPI cam is a regrind off of that one.
 

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Re: got a new cam, what do ya\'ll think of the specs??

I have a 93 1.9 and a 97 2.0 SPI sitting side by side in my garage right now. They have identical cam sensors in the same place with the same plug. 91-96 1.9 are interchangeable.

There is some mis-info floating around.
 

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Re: got a new cam, what do ya\'ll think of the specs??

Gonna have to check my past e-mails to escortfocus when I get home to see if they fed me the mis-info or I remembered it wrong. Thanks for correcting my mistake.
 

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hmm, well I can't find it where I asked them but I am pretty sure they said something about modifying the cams so they had a trigger for the cmp in an e-mail to me along time ago. I guess they wanted to make sure I bought from them instead of crane.
 

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Re: got a new cam, what do ya\'ll think of the specs??

that has to be it gig, i mean, they USE crane cams..and all 91-02 CVH engines have a cam sensor..sooo...yeah.

cam is shipping out on tuesday morning, should be here by end of week. after i get new lifters, ill have it in by the end of this month..tenatively planned.

ill let all know how it goes. btw, i threw in the stock 91 1.9 into DesktopDyno2000, then put in the specs for the new cam, the engine avg'd 14hp and 21ft lbs of tq. increased over stock. nice eh?
 

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Re: got a new cam, what do ya\'ll think of the specs??

After redegreeing my cam to 4* retarded, I'm quite pleased with my cam. The price is steep, though, and I applaud any work to find a cheaper way.

My EFP cam is # 1C1C63R. It's specs are:
Duration @ .006 tappet lift is 276* intake and exhaust
Lobe canters @.006 tappet lift are 16.5*
Duration @.050 tappet lift is 210* intake and exhaust
Lift @ lobe .265 intake and exhaust
Lift at valve with 1.65/1 rockers is .437 intake and exhaust

I also reinstalled the 70mm Pro-Flow MAF, but I took off the cone filter and made it a CAI with 3" PVC piping. Idles rough, but runs like a bat outta Hades.

Jim
 

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Re: got a new cam, what do ya\'ll think of the specs??

did you degree the cam when you installed it?
 

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I did, but I didn't read the BDR directions for the cam gear and had it set at 8* instead of 4*. It's such a bitch that I just ran it that way for a few weeks. It's fine now.
 

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Re: got a new cam, what do ya\'ll think of the specs??

damn, no wonder your low end was hurting!
 
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