[CableSrv]

ok guys and gurls
need a little info here
i plan on making a homeaid cai
and was wanting to know if pvc piping allows heat threw easily ?
and would it melt with the underhood temps?
i plan on making a duct to the front of the focus to allow a semi ram air affect.


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2000 ZX3 Kona edt.
esslinger adj. Cam gears
esslinger udp
K&N drop in filter

 

[Dev]

Moving to Zetec Tuning

 

[Carizme]

If Im not mistaken PVC melts and something about toxic fumes being given off by the plastic and damaging your engine.

 

[CableSrv]

eww not good
ok now how about pure silicon rubber tubing ?


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2000 ZX3 Kona edt.
esslinger adj. Cam gears
esslinger udp
K&N drop in filter

 

[Ducman69]

Well yeah IF it melts it would give off some nasty fumes. But that would only be the case if it touched on a hot metal part.

I wouldn't worry about the insulation of the material.
A) The underhood air is damn hot but not THAT hot.
B) There isn't enough surface area between the amount of air flowing through the tube, and the tube itself. That's why radiators need hundreds of fins.

Translation... you could compare insulated tubing to a copper tube and unlikely notice any difference.

Yes, I think PVC would work fine, and nope you wouldn't want to touch it against any hot metal part or it would melt just like any other plastic. There is some stuff I've seen used on motorcycle ram air intakes as well as some cars... once I find it, or at least a picture, I'll post it here. Its semi telescopic/flexible tubing with a nice smooth inside.

 

[Dazed42]

Not another home depot projet, right?

Could some aluminum heater pipe work and then wrap it in some hi temp header tape? I would just get the ice man though.

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GO: Ice-Man, Mobil1 and K&N oil filter if that counts.
Soundioneer DEH-P8000R
soon to have JL highs and mids and Earthquake subs and amps just gotta put it in
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[CableSrv]

well yea i could just do that
but i wanna have fun
besides i want to make a semi ram air affect while i'm at it as nothing out there trys to get air where it's mainly coming from
hell if you notice that the iceman cai is directly in a spot where it will hardly get air! how much air do you think gets between that small crack of the hood to make it to that cai ? not much but a little more if you remove that plastic cover which i have already.


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2000 ZX3 Kona edt.
esslinger adj. Cam gears
esslinger udp
K&N drop in filter

 

[Ducman69]

Or if you remove your battery to the trunk, you won't be as restricted in your design as the manufacturers are. That would let you design something much better, which will require creative (but hopefully profesional) fabrication with available parts.

 

[CableSrv]

your right! isn't there a kit that you can buy to relocate the battery back there?
or what would i need to do it ?


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2000 ZX3 Kona edt.
esslinger adj. Cam gears
esslinger udp
K&N drop in filter

 

[draggo]

Hey cablesrv, as a matter of fact i talked with a guy from knight engineering and he siad that the ice-man flows over 200 cfm, and stated that was more than enough for our engine. So the stock positioning of the intake system isnt all that bad. I also have a ram-air setup. I have the ice-man tubing, with a conical air filter, and i put a tube running from the front bumperr up to the filters front opening. I used some swimming pool tubing from lowes, it is some black tubing with blue spirals, cant miss it, i think its in plumbing. But it is really smooth inside, flexible, and holds its shape really well. I am going to take pics of it tomorrow. If you wanna see what my system looks like, just click on the BAT INC. logo, the one right when you log onto the Jet, and look for their cold air system, they charge like 130 bucks i think, thats a rip, and it looks like they used the same parts i did. WEll good luck.

 

[CableSrv]

draggo thankz a bunch
i've been looking for some good ducting
and your right looks like they did do the same as you.

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2000 ZX3 Kona edt.
esslinger adj. Cam gears
esslinger udp
K&N drop in filter

 

[S. on Da 5]

Here is a pic of my home made CAI. The Battery had to be placed in the back.

Top

Bottom view

This was modified from a 99 Honda Civic Si Iceman intake. (My car before the ZX3)

 

[CableSrv]

how did you relocat the battery
err what do you need to relocate it ?


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2000 ZX3 Kona edt.
esslinger adj. Cam gears
esslinger udp
K&N drop in filter

 

[S. on Da 5]

not to get off topic just wanted to share my idea.

I used a Moroso battery relocation kit and put it in the back. To put it back I just have to put it back using the existing parts which I saved.

I might be selling the Morroso relocation kit soon. I am going with a small light weight battery up front.

 

[mdskata]

Sounds eventfull, thats the name of the game, going fast on alittle bit of money. thats what its all about~!

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Malibu Blue zx3, 5 speed
2.5 inch drop, aem short ram air intake, indiglo gauges- focus sport stress bar (blue) esslinger udp (blue)
painted turn signals (blue)
Essilinger ud crank pulley(blue)
painted side mouldings and mirrors (blue)
Jba header
Kent cam gears
corbeau seats
momo race steering wheel-blue
gutted cat
dual gauge pod with air/fuel and oil pressure gauge
Just got a T25 for it, creating a exhaust flange as we speak to use my jba headers with it, gonna run 9psi, sweet tire spinning pleasure!!!
nothing like a focus!

 

[halfshark]

I know old topic but here's my current intake project.
1 removed intake resonator & sealed hole(go ahead laugh)
2 removed front snorkle
3 stole intake tube from doner 84 Accord

4 re-routed tube to pull air from under front
I was going for function not fashion, and it can be pushed inside the bumper completely for the stealth look with no effort.
comment please....
bumper

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[Ray]

halfshark, that looks like a good idea.

i think those ribs in your tubing are costing you some air... but nice!
i am going to take draggo's advice and run some tubing up to my short ram to actually get air to it (i hope). that's a project, however, for another weekend.

 

[UltegraSTI]

here's a cleaner, better lookin way 2 tackle it...

http://tiger.towson.edu/~rwarfi1/ghettointake.html

-Ult

 

[ferrethouse]

i wish my engine bay still looked like that

. the world would be a better place without dirt