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Re: I still don\'t like airbags ... Air bag injuries, deaths fall

he was wearing his seatbelt, and i believe that it wasn't the stock seatbelt, but a 4 point racing harness, and he still got knocked out...oh and it was a full face helmet
 

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Them air bags saved my life. So I ain't gonna complain or anything.
 

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he was wearing his seatbelt, and i believe that it wasn't the stock seatbelt, but a 4 point racing harness, and he still got knocked out...oh and it was a full face helmet
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Just curious...What sort of racing was he doing and how did it happen?
 

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Re: I still don\'t like airbags ... Air bag injuries, deaths fall

How close was he sitting to the wheel?
 

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Sometimes I think the only way to be safe in a modern car is to wear body armor and a helmet with a face shield and make sure your seat belts are fastened.

The seat belt holds you safely in place especially in rollovers, the air bags absorb the force of a collision and the body armor, helmet and faceshield protect you from the air bags and flying objects.
 

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I still don\'t like airbags ... Air bag injuries, deaths fall

Air bag injuries, deaths fall

Data support use of less powerful devices
April 8, 2003

BY DEE-ANN DURBIN
ASSOCIATED PRESS

WASHINGTON -- The less powerful air bags that automakers began installing 5 years ago have decreased the number of serious, air bag-related injuries and deaths without compromising safety, according to preliminary results of a study by automakers and safety experts.

Robert Strassburger, vice president of the Washington-based Alliance of Automobile Manufacturers, said Monday that the data so far validate automakers' decision to install less powerful air bags after a series of deaths and injuries were blamed on air-bag deployments.

Strassburger is one of a group of 13 auto and safety experts from industry, universities and government that is overseeing the 3-year, $5-million air bag study, which is being paid for by the alliance. Friday was the first day group members saw preliminary data from the study, which began in 2002.

Strassburger said short women and children, who had been most at risk with the old air bags, were far less likely to suffer from serious injury or death due to head, neck or chest injuries if they had an air bag installed in 1998 or later.

Researchers are seeing more injuries to the lower extremities, including the legs and feet. Those injuries also are more severe than injuries seen before 1998. But researchers aren't sure if that is due to air bags or vehicle design changes, Strassburger said. He added that the trend is a positive one, overall.

"You rarely die of a broken leg or a broken ankle," Strassburger said. "As with anything and everything in regulation and engineering, it's a trade-off. This is a trade-off that, literally, we can live with."
 

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They've alwyays saved more lives that they've taken. I always did and still do give airbags a big
 

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my airbag saved my life--or at least saved me from disgusting injury. (along with my seatbelt)yes, i had a very bad burn from my airbag, but i would rather have a burn than a smashed up face or to not be alive
 

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my friend was driving a focus, was wearing a helmet, and got knocked out, as well as the windshield being completely totaled on the passenger side
 

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Originally posted by j_latimer:
my friend was driving a focus, was wearing a helmet, and got knocked out, as well as the windshield being completely totaled on the passenger side
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">with or without a seatbelt?

I hit a deer and we both were wearing seatbelts with the seats all the way back. The airbags deployed, but were completely un-necessary, because our belts held us back. The driver's side airbag knocked my hands off of the steering wheel, which could have been worse than if there were no airbags at all.
 

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Re: I still don\'t like airbags ... Air bag injuries, deaths fall

Originally posted by j_latimer:
he was wearing his seatbelt, and i believe that it wasn't the stock seatbelt, but a 4 point racing harness, and he still got knocked out...oh and it was a full face helmet
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">That is probably WHY he got knocked out. The STOCK seat belt and airbag are designed to work TOGETHER.
In a crash the focus first sense if the driver is wearing a seat belt, and how far back the seat is. Then the airbag decides to either use strong or weak airbag inflation. The seat belts tighten up, and then slowly "give" allowing you to fall into the airbag after it was inflated. If your wearing a 4 point harness with a helmet, the focus is gonna thing you don't have a belt on, deploying the airbag at the wrong speed, The 4 point belt will not slowly give out after the bags are inflated, it will just hold you in place, and the helmet will slam into the bag. If you decide to mess with a safety system that cost millions of dollars to develop I suggest you either leave it alone, or replace the whole thing (if your wearing a racing harness, and a helmet, and maybe have a role cage, this would be one case where you should take the airbag OUT. These 2 systems are not designed to work together.
 
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