What if they start putting the burden of paying for the damages CAUSED by your Explorer onto your insurance? Once again, what you're really doing is foisting off YOUR problems onto some other innocent person.

So what makes you the self appointed protector of the world against selfishness of Americans?
Yesterday 08:05 PM

I'm just one of billions of voices from around the world that are sick of this ****.

 

The pure, unashamed selfishness of (so many) Americans is driving me absolutely mad. We all share this same planet, and the same climate. If you morons would get your heads out of your asses and realize that no, your life is NOT worth more than somebody else's, and that the big car safety myth is just leading to the further escallation of vehicle size, we'd all be able to live in a better world.

You're right, we don't KNOW if our habits are leading to climate change. But we only have one planet, and by the time we know for sure it will be too late. Are you going to bet the future of your children that you're right?

Being cautious costs nothing. Being a selfish arrogant asshat could potentially cost EVERYTHING.

Waaaa! Waaaaa! those damn Americans! Waaaaa! First it's guns and now it's SUVs, Waaaa! If we don't stop them damn Americans, they'll ruin the world! Waaaa! He says as he leave his home in the environmentally friendly confines of Canada and goes to his job in the devils backyard (USA).

 

The pure, unashamed selfishness of (so many) Americans is driving me absolutely mad. We all share this same planet, and the same climate. If you morons would get your heads out of your asses and realize that no, your life is NOT worth more than somebody else's, and that the big car safety myth is just leading to the further escallation of vehicle size, we'd all be able to live in a better world.

You're right, we don't KNOW if our habits are leading to climate change. But we only have one planet, and by the time we know for sure it will be too late. Are you going to bet the future of your children that you're right?

Being cautious costs nothing. Being a selfish arrogant asshat could potentially cost EVERYTHING.

False Statement.

Please revise.

 

false to you maybe but truth is subjective

 

Truth, by its definition, is objective..

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/truth

I don't see anything in there saying Truth is subjective to one's interpretation of fact.

I point you to definition 3.


Fact is, "caution" requires a hefty price for many, in this case. Just because YOU, oh great P51, saver of the environment, have no problem driving a small, fuel efficient car, does not meant that to everyone else, this is without consequence.

Universal statements will never be the way to make a point. (zomg I just made a universal statement! ahhh! lol )

 

if your knowlage is limited to a internet dictionary, then so you too will be limited in thought.

 

How quick to jump down P-51, but he's absolutely right.

Why do most people drive SUVs as a daily driver? Take a survey.

Is it because they need the seating? Station Wagons, Minivans, or larger sedans can accomodate that.

Is it because they need the towing capacity? Thats fine... but do you need to tow your toy hauler/boat/rv to work with you every day?

Is it because of work? Great... But once you get home... do you really need to pile into the F650 to run to Church on Sunday morning?





We don't take responsibility because we're cheap, we're lazy, and we're selfish. We want a boat, but we're unwilling to incur the extra expense to have a dedicated tow vehicle. We want a work truck, but we're too cheap to keep a grocery getter so that we're getting something better than 8mpg to get to the 7-11 for our cigs.


I take the train to work to commute. Given the amount of traffic on the freeway, I'd say that the train represents less than 1% of the people that live in my area that travel at least 20 miles to work.

 

if your knowlage is limited to a internet dictionary, then so you too will be limited in thought.

LOL

you're a moron.

I used internet dictionary because you can LINK to internet dictionaries

tard

 

How quick to jump down P-51, but he's absolutely right.

Why do most people drive SUVs as a daily driver? Take a survey.

Is it because they need the seating? Station Wagons, Minivans, or larger sedans can accomodate that.

Is it because they need the towing capacity? Thats fine... but do you need to tow your toy hauler/boat/rv to work with you every day?

Is it because of work? Great... But once you get home... do you really need to pile into the F650 to run to Church on Sunday morning?





We don't take responsibility because we're cheap, we're lazy, and we're selfish. We want a boat, but we're unwilling to incur the extra expense to have a dedicated tow vehicle. We want a work truck, but we're too cheap to keep a grocery getter so that we're getting something better than 8mpg to get to the 7-11 for our cigs.


I take the train to work to commute. Given the amount of traffic on the freeway, I'd say that the train represents less than 1% of the people that live in my area that travel at least 20 miles to work.

+1
You cant argue with that.

 

How quick to jump down P-51, but he's absolutely right.

Why do most people drive SUVs as a daily driver? Take a survey.

Is it because they need the seating? Station Wagons, Minivans, or larger sedans can accomodate that.

Is it because they need the towing capacity? Thats fine... but do you need to tow your toy hauler/boat/rv to work with you every day?

Is it because of work? Great... But once you get home... do you really need to pile into the F650 to run to Church on Sunday morning?





We don't take responsibility because we're cheap, we're lazy, and we're selfish. We want a boat, but we're unwilling to incur the extra expense to have a dedicated tow vehicle. We want a work truck, but we're too cheap to keep a grocery getter so that we're getting something better than 8mpg to get to the 7-11 for our cigs.


I take the train to work to commute. Given the amount of traffic on the freeway, I'd say that the train represents less than 1% of the people that live in my area that travel at least 20 miles to work.

So everyone should have a garage full of vehicles for every purpose and just use the most efficient vehicle for the job at hand, thats what you're saying..

welcome to ****ing reality where most people are scraping by to keep the one vehicle they have and can't afford a garage full of vehicles to suit every occasion.

But you're right, most people who have SUV's don't need them, but a lot of them only have them because they think they're safer.

I'm just playing devils advocate here, i can't stand all the SUV's on the road, but at the same time, I don't want people's personal freedom to be compromised... I just want those people to be removed from society... too much to ask?

 

Life is not fair and never will be. Some people can only AFFORD one vehicle and others only WANT one vehicle. Either way, they will get whichever vehicle they feel is most suitable to them. If they buy an SUV get over it. That is why we live in America anyway, freedom of choice. We can all argue until we're blue in the face about this. The fact is that noone is going to be 100% unequivicably correct. I am really getting tired of all the "SAVE THE F'IN WORLD" mentality. This planet and it's contents has existed for thousands of years. Ice ages, meteor collisions, global warming, etc... have all failed to end life here. I don't hear anyone screaming to stop commercial jets from flying even though it's a fact that their emissions are much higher than an automobile. Also, most minivans and larger car based vehicles don't get too much better mileage than SUVs, which means they aren't any better for the environment.

The bottom line is that you have the choice to buy a small vehicle. You don't have the right to expect ANYONE else to do the same.

 

I have a truck for hauling and doing work, I have my 40+mpg reliable as a rock Micra for commuting to work, I have my long legged good for passing Contour for any highway trips I need to make, and I have my Focus because I wanted it but don't even need it. I'm definetly not rich, I just bought used cars. Insurance on all four cars is less a month than my friend pours into his Sierra's tank once a month. Gas between them is less than his insurance, so in my case 4 cars and a small truck = cheaper than one truck. You don't have to be rich to afford multiple vehicles, just choose wisely based what you need from them.

If you're thinking maintenance is a problem, putting 1/4 the mileage on each vehicle means I have 1/4 the repairs to do in each one, usually maintenance is a non issue. The commuter car gets the most miles and I've spent $190 on it over 3 years. Small cars are rediculously cheap to keep running (4 tires for $78, $13 oil changes, $25 to fill the tank)

 

Well grats to you on having a bunch of used cars..

 

LOL

you're a moron.

I used internet dictionary because you can LINK to internet dictionaries

tard

and you back up arguements with a dictionary, we're not argueing about the number of syllebles in a word, clown, and tossing around insults on a website only makes you look like more of a tool.

 

*sigh* you made a statement that Truth is subjective. I showed you a definition of the word that states unequivocally that Truth is in fact not subjective.

Do books scare you?

 

Do books scare you?

no, but people who think that the nature of reality and truth can be found in a dictionary do.

 

lol ok so everything is relative then, and everything you read in books is unimportant.

we should all drop some acid now and talk about the universe.

 

we should all drop some acid and talk about the universe.

whatever works for ya hippie

 

whatever works for ya hippie

You're really trying to amp up that post count aren't ya?

-Brian

 

You're really trying to amp up that post count aren't ya?

-Brian

not really, but if someone calls me a moron, while being one themself, I like to point it out.

 

not really, but if someone calls me a moron, while being one themself, I like to point it out.

lewl

 

:lock::lock:

-Brian

 

Can we please take the bickering to e-mail?

Anyway, I hear they crashed a bunch of subcompacts?

Here's the way I look at it: Americans have always had a love affair with large vehicles. Because our country is so large, it is condusive to owning large vehicles, unlike other parts of the world. However, with the recent hikes in gas prices, environmental issues, and dependency on foreign oil, small cars have become somewhat popular (again). But it is very difficult to get an entire society to shift its viewpoints on larger cars.

However, just because we have the freedom to choose what kind of vehicle we drive doesn't mean we make smart choices about what to drive. We do it because it appeals to us in a certain way; it feels good to drive a big vehicle. It imparts status, or gives us a certain kind of feeling about what we can do.

Also, there is a bit of this sentiment that peolpe like to say, "I can drive whatever the hell I want to because this is America, and you can't tell me what to do." Although this is true, I think, in general, people just need to make smarter choices. But many don't want to have to consider the United States' impact on the rest of the world. I'm not necessarily just talking about global warming or pollution, but just overall consumption of fossil fuels and other natural resources.

 

That was a much appreciated, calm and level-headed summary of the situation.

 

Here's the way I look at it: Americans have always had a love affair with large vehicles. Because our country is so large, it is condusive to owning large vehicles, unlike other parts of the world. However, with the recent hikes in gas prices, environmental issues, and dependency on foreign oil, small cars have become somewhat popular (again). But it is very difficult to get an entire society to shift its viewpoints on larger cars.

However, just because we have the freedom to choose what kind of vehicle we drive doesn't mean we make smart choices about what to drive. We do it because it appeals to us in a certain way; it feels good to drive a big vehicle. It imparts status, or gives us a certain kind of feeling about what we can do.

Also, there is a bit of this sentiment that peolpe like to say, "I can drive whatever the hell I want to because this is America, and you can't tell me what to do." Although this is true, I think, in general, people just need to make smarter choices. But many don't want to have to consider the United States' impact on the rest of the world. I'm not necessarily just talking about global warming or pollution, but just overall consumption of fossil fuels and other natural resources.

I really couldn't agree with you more bro :thumbup:

-Brian