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I got my car back from the shop after 2 months of lots of BS. Anyway its not boosting, even after having the sc rebuilt by jr. It reads 10-20 lbs vacuum from 1500-5000 rpm
My questions are
1. If you dont have the spacer between the tb and inlet will it affect anything? I only have a gasket and sealant there.
2. Does a egr code affect sc in anyway?
3. Does the boost guage connect to the black box via hose?
4. Does belt length affect boost? I'am running a 99.5" with good tension, but squeels at start up?
5. What are the chances of the black box malfunctioning? the cover on mine is bent inward, but I know its protected with resin filling.
6. Is it safe to drive the car like this reading 20lbs vaccum, 2 weeks till I get it to the shop?
The car is a brand new 04 zx3 with only 15k mi so I know it shouldnt be anything wrong with the engine.
Any suggestions will be appreciated,
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Anyway its not boosting, even after having the sc rebuilt by jr. It reads 10-20 lbs vacuum from 1500-5000 rpm
Boost aside, it sounds like you're having either motor problems or a faulty boost gauge. A non-boosted car should hit 0 vaccuum as soon as the driver hits WOT. Are you reading the gauge at partial throttle or WOT? You won't make much (if any) boost at partial throttle.

1. If you dont have the spacer between the tb and inlet will it affect anything? I only have a gasket and sealant there.
TB spacers are a waste of money. Slap a gasket and some RTV between the TB and the TB bracket and you're good to go.

2. Does a egr code affect sc in anyway?
No, it doesn't effect the supercharger, but ANY check engine light will cause the car to go into a "safe mode." This means the car will retard timing approximitely 5 degrees and you will lose power.

3. Does the boost guage connect to the black box via hose?
Yes, a small piece of tubing that can handle high pressure will be used to hook up the boost gauge. Since many people get rid of the black box eventually in favor of real tuning, most opt to use a different reference line. But the black box line (if hooked up correctly) should work.

4. Does belt length affect boost? I'am running a 99.5" with good tension, but squeels at start up?
If the belt is slipping (which yours is and it will only get worse) then yes. A lose belt will cause the belt to slip and not properly spin the pulley for the supercharger.

You need to read this: http://www.fordracingparts.com/rbr/tech/files/FRPP_JRSC_Belt_Details.pdf and follow the directions. You have the new alternator bracket and should be using a different belt routing.

5. What are the chances of the black box malfunctioning? the cover on mine is bent inward, but I know its protected with resin filling.
As long as it's not broken (which it sounds like yours might be) it should work fine. Hell, if you're that worried about it shoot me a PM and you can have one of my spares, just pay for shipping.

6. Is it safe to drive the car like this reading 20lbs vaccum, 2 weeks till I get it to the shop?
Something is wrong somewhere. It sounds like your boost gauge isn't hooked up properly. Since your gauge and black box are hooked up to the same reference line... your car coul have some problems if the black box isn't working. If your car is showing vaccuum when you're in boost, the black box will not send extra fuel to the engine and you could blow the motor.

Stay out of boost and try to figure out the problem. I'm betting something is hooked up wrong.

Nate
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If you are running a 99.5 belt I am assuming you are using a 2.5" BBK pulley. With that set up you should get a chirp at start up. But that belt length should provide perfect boost. It is the exact setup used on my son's Zetec. BUT...You should not be using the JR black box as it will not provide fueling for your setup.

As far as vacuum hoses are concerned, always hook up your boost gauge and, if you are using it, the JR black box to the two lower vacuum fittings on the large aluminium supercharger manifold near the firewall. Do not hook any boost reference hoses to the TB casting. This casting only reads vacuum. The fittings below the supercharger on the back of the intake manifold are the fittings that see both vacuum and boost.

The EGR code makes me thing you've got a vacuum hose hooked up wrong. It sounds like the installer didn't get everything worked out correctly.

Take a copy of the JR instructions and follow all the hose routings carefully. There are photos of the hose routing in the instructions. You don't have to wait two weeks to get to a shop. Just follow the photos and the instructions Nate and I have given you and the problem can probably be solved in your driveway.
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If you are running a 99.5 belt I am assuming you are using a 2.5" BBK pulley.
Why does my BBK need a 104.5" belt?
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If you are running a 99.5 belt I am assuming you are using a 2.5" BBK pulley.
Why does my BBK need a 104.5" belt?
http://www.fordracingparts.com/rbr/tech/files/FRPP_JRSC_Belt_Details.pdf
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well that explains it...I forgot all about that bracket change...thanks
I'am getting 20lbs of vaccum at idle and while cruising, but at throttle it goes up to 0 but not into boost. The sc came off a 02 zetec but is now on my 04 zx3. The belt is a 99.5" and the alternator bracket will not reach the mouting hole on the unit.Its a stock 6 psi kit, no big boost till I get this thing figured out. The hoses all seem ok, no leaks I'am aware of, other than the gasket at the tb which we had to custom fit.
I had the exact same problem and it was a matter of switching the vac line for the boost gage to a vac source directly on the jr manifold.
Im having a problem with my idle hanging at 2000 rpm's for a few seconds after driving, but I dont really have the symptoms of a leaking TB...but Im gonna check it anyway. Does anyone have any suggestions? Yesterday was the maiden voyage with the JRSC/BBK
I'am getting 20lbs of vaccum at idle and while cruising, but at throttle it goes up to 0 but not into boost. The sc came off a 02 zetec but is now on my 04 zx3. The belt is a 99.5" and the alternator bracket will not reach the mouting hole on the unit.Its a stock 6 psi kit, no big boost till I get this thing figured out. The hoses all seem ok, no leaks I'am aware of, other than the gasket at the tb which we had to custom fit.

an undersize crank pulley will cause this. I forgot to change it back to stock size when I put in my jrsc. it hit 0 with the 3.6"SVT pulley steup but as soon as I put the stock 5" crank it started puching 5psi
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Im having a problem with my idle hanging at 2000 rpm's for a few seconds after driving, but I dont really have the symptoms of a leaking TB...but Im gonna check it anyway. Does anyone have any suggestions? Yesterday was the maiden voyage with the JRSC/BBK
Anybody??? I also have 2 DTC's: P1000 Monitor Testing Not Complete <---- not too worried about this one. And P0171-System to Lean (Bank 1). Which I am worried about. I am running the stock Ford Racing tune, and cant find any leaks. I am still looking though. I am thinking its the TB or the EGR gasket. I dont know....ANBODY???
i had the p0171 when on it hard and not using the stock SVT airbox, I have always had a short hang about 2k then drops to idle. Randy had it even longer on some of his first tunes for the SVT I dont think thats a problem but the p0171 is.

John
yeah, I am running a FS cool Flo...so since that is probably the problem, should I be concerned? I am going to have FS tune it in about a month. So they can probably just tune for that airbox right?
If you are running lean, throw on the stock box. If that gets rid of the code, good. Throw on the cool flo when you head to FS. Ping is bad. Don't let Ping happen to you!!!
yeah put the airbox on reflash if you can and drive it for a cel, if no reflash I think the cel would clear after a set amount of time that I cant remember
I would think unplugging the battery would get rid of the cel...drive it for a while and if it doesn't pop up, problem fixed.
well I found the problem. The #4 injector has a vaccuum leak. I dont know how to fix that though. Its seated all the way into the fuel rail and into the intake manifold. Its leaking where it goes into the intake manifold. I dont have any fuel leakage, just vaccuum. I hope the hole wasnt machined too big or something. Anyone have any suggestions?
I've PM'd you Justin. But this is a common installer mistake. There are retainer clips that keep the injectors from moving too far up into the fuel rail. If those retainers are not snapped into the groove in the injectors the fuel injectors are allowed to move up into the fuel rail too far and that causes a vacuum leak at the intake manifold. The other common mistake is not greasing the O rings enough. If there isn't enough grease on the O rings they will bind on the aluminum when being installed and that forces the fuel injectors to pop out of the retaining clips and up into the fuel rail. Check those injectors and retainers and I'm sure you'll be OK.
Thank you Sir, I will get on it tomorrow morning. I did all this already....but maybe something is binding like you said. Im sire you know more than anyone how to fix these things.
Thanks.
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