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Just how bad is SoCal for a heavily mod'd street car?

833 views 26 replies 11 participants last post by  ClintB#1  
#1 ·
So my car is so heavily mod'd to be barely recognizeable as a focus anymore and you can tell it's meant to be a show car.

If I drop a built engine/turbo setup into this thing, am I ever gonna be able to drive it around if I move down there?

How bad are the police at profiling mod'd cars?

Just curious. Anybody know somebody that knows somebody that might know a guy who does emmissions testing?

My luck, the job won't go through, but not for my lack of trying :)
 
#3 ·
Profiling has gotten more prevalent down here recently (last year or so) according to the police, and the news. However, I still haven't heard of very many people really getting the shaft for no reason. I think that one Pinoy dude down here got it once, and I think Tribal's been hit a couple times. It really comes down to the same situation as a lot of other laws. Are you willing to pay the price if you get caught? That's what you need to look at, really.
 
#4 ·
I'm not too concerned about emmissions just yet. The engine is still stock (except for intake and catback), and it would be a bit before I could get the engine work done... I don't think it would fail emmissions as is....

I'm more concerned about profiling, though I am a middle aged white boy, so that maybe helps a little....

What's the tint regs? 35% max on drivers/passengers, up to 5% on all windows rear of the driver? <-- what it is here, but varies greatly I know...
 
#7 ·
Kelric said:
I'm not too concerned about emmissions just yet. The engine is still stock (except for intake and catback), and it would be a bit before I could get the engine work done... I don't think it would fail emmissions as is....

I'm more concerned about profiling, though I am a middle aged white boy, so that maybe helps a little....

What's the tint regs? 35% max on drivers/passengers, up to 5% on all windows rear of the driver? <-- what it is here, but varies greatly I know...
That would make you a minority here in California and prime subject for profiling.:evilgrin:
 
#10 ·
There used to be a link that had all the common laws you needed to know about here in CA (timt, lights, exhaust, etc) that was geared towards the sport compact crowd (actually street racers), but I can't seem to find it on the DMV site any more.

Edit: found it

http://www.chp.ca.gov/html/streetlegal.html
 
#11 ·
you mean this stuff:

Street racing is illegal. The CHP won't hesitate to take street racers to court.

A first conviction on a street racing violation means:
Minimum county jail sentence of 24 hours and maximum of 90 days.
Vehicle probably impounded for at least 30 days.
Owner responsible for vehicle's towing and storage charges ($1,000 or more).
If owner fails to pay, vehicle could be sold at a lien sale.
Anyone who aids or abets a street race also faces a maximum 90-day jail sentence.
Instead, take your car to a National Hot Rod Association-sanctioned track or drag strip, where you can race safely under optimum conditions.

"Nots" for the Hots

Illegal equipment most often cited by the CHP:


Loud car stereo.
Illegal if heard more than 50 feet from the vehicle
(27007 VC).

Lack of front and rear DMV-issued license plates
(5200 VC).

Radar jammers.
Radar detectors are legal, but jammers, or any device which interferes with radar signals, are illegal
(28150 VC).


Illegal...

Lowered frame (or any other part) that is lower than the lowest point of the wheel rim
(24008 VC).

Air and hydraulic suspension systems that are operated unsafely or with the vehicle lower than allowed
(24002, 24008 VC).

Tinting the front side windows and the windshield (except for a narrow band at the top of the windshield). Windows behind the driver's head may be tinted. If rear window is tinted, right-side mirror is required
(26708 VC).

Lack of white rear license plate light - It must illuminate the license plate, not project light behind the vehicle.
(24601 VC).


Missing front and/or rear bumpers
(28071 VC).


Illegal engine modifications. Most are illegal due to smog
(27156 VC). - See Air Resources Board web site for more info and list of parts that are legal.


Blue and yellow headlights. Headlights must be white - blue and yellow are illegal
(24011 VC). - Look for the DOT symbol on the bulb and package.

Headlights brighter or higher wattage than those from the factory. You may be able to see better, but the lights are illegal
(24011 VC).

Tail lights other than red
(24600 VC).

Illegal brake lights. Brake lights on vehicles newer than 1979 must be red (24603 VC). (Vehicles older than 1979 may be red or yellow.)

Lack of rear reflectors. Two red reflectors are required on the rear of cars and trucks (24607 VC).

Incorrect color of turn signal. It must be white or yellow to the front, red or yellow to the rear (24953 VC).

Red lights to the front. They are illegal except on emergency vehicles (24003 VC).

Tail lights that incorporate a bulb with a red tint or coating. In general, custom tail lights that incorporate a clear outer shell and red inner lens are legal (24011 VC). If they don't incorporate reflectors, they must be added to the vehicle (24607 VC).

Tail lights that are too dim, washed out or show yellow, white or other colors (24600 VC).

Illegal color of side marker lights. If present, must be yellow in the front and red in the rear (25106, 24003 VC).

Driving with just parking lights on (24800 VC). Vehicles that have factory-installed automatic daytime running lights must meet federal requirements and are legal.

Illegal decorative lights (24003 VC).

All flashing decorative lights are illegal (25250 VC).

Illegal windshield washer nozzle lights. Only white or yellow are allowed. (25106 VC, 24003 VC).

Lights attached to tire valves (24003, 25250 VC).

Lighted license plate frames (unless red) (24003 VC).
Illegal lights, whether or not they are operating. It is illegal just to have them on the vehicle (24003 VC).

Excessively noisy exhaust systems and mufflers (27150, 27151 VC). Many aftermarket exhaust systems and parts are illegal. Look for parts that meet California law. If it doesn't say it meets the law, it probably doesn't.

Exhaust systems which meet smog requirements but are still too loud. Exhaust equipment that states it is, "Legal in all 50 states," refers to smog, not noise.
Note: New law (27150.2 VC) does not require law enforcement to use sound level meters to test for excessive noise. Citation is based on officer's judgment. Cited violators may have testing done at smog referee stations or may be directed by the court to have testing done. Vehicles in violation must be brought into compliance. A fine may also be imposed.

This pamphlet is intended as a guide only. Contact your nearest CHP office for any questions or interpretations.

More detailed information is also available in CHP publications CHP 885 (Passenger Car Equipment), CHP 888 (Motorcycle Equipment) and CHP 892 (Special Construction Vehicles).

They may be obtained from your local CHP office.
 
#14 ·
I'm fine with all of that.... couple of questions though...

I have no bumper side marker lights anymore with my new bumper??

How much do they enforce the mandatory front plate? We have to have it in WA, but it's not enforced and I run without it. I actually got pulled over once when I ran with it in the windshield, but I took it out and haven't got popped for it in the last 3 years.

Decorative lights? I have purple neons all over the car (but I don't run them when I'm driving) but I like to light it up if I'm parked.

Will they mess with you if you're parked or only if the car is in motion?

Sorry for all the seemingly noob questions, but it's a new state for me.... and I was so loving the $30 tabs :(
 
#15 ·
You could get a ticket for no side markers, if you don't have any at all. But I specifically called the DMV and asked about that particular vehicle code. There is nothing that specifies where the turn indicators must be, only that they need to be visible on the front side of the car. So technically, if you had some on your fenders, but not in the bumper, you'll be ok.

Law states front plate is required. Same situation as the smog check and tint stuff. It's required, but you don't need to do it, but don't complain when you get a ticket.

You shouldn't get hassled for neons as long as the vehicle is not in motion.
 
#17 ·
Kelric said:
I'm fine with all of that.... couple of questions though...

I have no bumper side marker lights anymore with my new bumper??

How much do they enforce the mandatory front plate? We have to have it in WA, but it's not enforced and I run without it. I actually got pulled over once when I ran with it in the windshield, but I took it out and haven't got popped for it in the last 3 years.

Decorative lights? I have purple neons all over the car (but I don't run them when I'm driving) but I like to light it up if I'm parked.

Will they mess with you if you're parked or only if the car is in motion?

Sorry for all the seemingly noob questions, but it's a new state for me.... and I was so loving the $30 tabs :(
In LA even the meter maids will get you for no front plate. some parts of LB will do the same. I got tired of paying those tickets and opted to place mine in.
 
#18 ·
it's not TOO bad as long as you don't have a rice can. drive respectable go the speed limit and don't do stupid ****. if you do get pulled for speeding the cop might write this on your ticket
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oh BTW the car was an evo that got that on the ticket. **** they come stock wiht a "street racer package"

but yeah make sure yuou have the front plate because they can always get you for that and always make sure all your lights are working and you only have amber blinkers. clear is ok but they always **** with my friends old civic that had clears so he always had to keep swapping the housing to get it signed off and pay the $20 fix it or whatever it was
 
#19 ·
I've never had any problems...
My list of mods is too extensive to list....

Redynoed today for 6ish psi of boost.
463rwhp, 491lb-ft of torque on crappy california 91 octane....

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I guess the trick to run under the RADAR, be stealthy, no loud anything, paint especially.

-bix
 
#20 ·
biscuitninja said:
I've never had any problems...
My list of mods is too extensive to list....

Redynoed today for 6ish psi of boost.
463rwhp, 491lb-ft of torque on crappy california 91 octane....

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I guess the trick to run under the RADAR, be stealthy, no loud anything, paint especially.

-bix
you don't count everybody knows the cops don't mess with the muscle car guys

except for this idiot that deserved it for puttin alcheezas on a Vsux stang
http://forums.officer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=49928
 
#22 ·
bix, James has it right. Cops will pull over a compact car regardless of how tasteful/tasteless the mods to it are. But, if the same guy were driving a Camaro, 'vette, Mustang, or any [insert big V8 carring car name here], they tend to let them roll as long as they are not being blatantly stupid. It's the same thing with jackholes with loud ass Harley's that rip by at WOT at like 125 dbs and I get stopped because cop doesn't like the sound of my exahust.

Latre,
Al
 
#24 ·
EastAl said:
bix, James has it right. Cops will pull over a compact car regardless of how tasteful/tasteless the mods to it are. But, if the same guy were driving a Camaro, 'vette, Mustang, or any [insert big V8 carring car name here], they tend to let them roll as long as they are not being blatantly stupid. It's the same thing with jackholes with loud ass Harley's that rip by at WOT at like 125 dbs and I get stopped because cop doesn't like the sound of my exahust.

Latre,
Al
Naa, I've had bad luck in both the Mush and the Focus. It just depends on what you are doing. My car looks mostly stock, and while it sounds agressive, its not Captain Crazy. They stopped the Focus because of the tint (*which is legal*), but I'm also old so that' helps out more than anything else.

But I believe his question was heavily modded street cars. I believe mine fits the bill....

-bix
 
#25 ·
i don't know if my car would be considered "heavily modded", but i've only ran into trouble with my tint. It helps being a focus because most people, even car guys, won't take a second look at my car. But it also helps having a darker, mellow exterior. Thats why i'm glad i got a grey focus instead of the white one i was originally going to get.
 
#26 ·
RickB1321 said:
i don't know if my car would be considered "heavily modded", but i've only ran into trouble with my tint. It helps being a focus because most people, even car guys, won't take a second look at my car. But it also helps having a darker, mellow exterior. Thats why i'm glad i got a grey focus instead of the white one i was originally going to get.
I've gotten stopped twice for exhaust, and twice for no front plate. Only warnings for tint after being stopped for the other things.

It all depends on the time, the place, the car and the driver. If you are in a bad place (ie. lots of cops with nothing to do) late at night and you drive like a jackass, you are probably going to get pulled over for SOMTHING.