I don't know of any shops, but congrats on the kit. I'm still saving for mine. Keep us updated

 

Not sure who you talked to, but stage 1 is NOT upgradeable. Gerhard himself showed me the difference in the kits.

The outlet of the turbo is a different location on stage 2 so that the intercooler can easily be added on later.

The stage 1 turbo housing is configured differently to blow straight into the intake manifold. You won't be able to add an intercooler on stage 1 because of this.

If you're going to upgrade later, get the stage 2, that's what it's designed for.

 

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>I chose the stage 1 because I don't want to push the auto transmission. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

MC read closer he got the stage 1 because he's not gonna upgrade.

funkus you are really going to like this kit, it'll really wake up your car! I'm loving mine. Can't wait to intercool it.

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MC, you misunderstood my post. I'm definitely not going beyond stage 1 becuse I don't think the auto trany can handle it for a long period of time. Maybe it can but I'm not going to risk it.

Please, anyone know any reliable shops near me where I can trust them to install this bad boy? Thanks.

 

My mistake - Just how much difference does it make having the shorter pipe to the intake manifold? Does stage 1 have 0.5 psi more boost or just a little less lag compared to stage 2?

 

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by funkus:
MC, you misunderstood my post. I'm definitely not going beyond stage 1 becuse I don't think the auto trany can handle it for a long period of time. Maybe it can but I'm not going to risk it.

Please, anyone know any reliable shops near me where I can trust them to install this bad boy? Thanks.
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funkus: check w/ aerochargerJim, he is the man that can tell you where to go for reliable shops. The other thing is that yes the automatic tranny in the ford focus can handle up to 270 ft.lb of torque. There are a few people that jim has mentioned that are going w/ the stage 3 turbo and even working o going w/ the stage 4 turbo. If going to these stages would require the intercooler as well as adding a transcooler and adding a tranny gauge to keep an eye on the temp. I would also change to a better tranny fluid as well. Hope this helps some.

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Congrats! This just makes me want to get the stage 3 on my auto even more! I talked with Gerhard and came to the conclusion 7 psi would be about as much as my auto could take, so that's how much it's gonna get!

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Cool JRock!

Hope that works out for ya. A few things make me stay away from stage 3 on the auto:
1) It doesn't seem like enough testing was done at that boost level for the auto
2) My wife

3) And statements like this:

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Let me clarify again:
A) The transmission is "rated" at 270ft-lbs. I don't know how much of a factor of safety they left.

B) The torque converter *multiplies* the engine torque. This means that if you are making 200ft-lbs at the engine, you will be putting way more than 270ft-lbs through the tranny.

I really don't know what will happen. So don't run off all willy-nilly and blow up your trany and go to your dealer saying a Ford engineer told you it was OK. Cause I didn't.
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Hey Jim, know any good shops near NYC or in NJ where I can get the turbo installed?

 

Jim, what is the psi set at for the stage 1? I think it's 4 psi. What if I want to lower it for bad weather or when someone else is driving. And what if I wanted to raise it like 1 psi higher once in a while when the weather is cooler. Do I need the boost controller? How much extra is that? If I do get a boost controller is there a safety limit built in that prevents someone from setting the boost too high? Sorry if this has been discussed already. Thanks!

 

Hmm, I could change my order to a stage 2 just in case I ever want to upgrade. Then I could increase it to like 6 or 7 psi if I felt like it was safe down the road.

I don't do any racing though. It's a daily driver car and I just want to add some giddy up to the car mostly for highway passing and quicker take-offs. I'm thinking that 4psi with 160hp at the wheels is going to be enough for me. Anyone with the Aerocharger running without the intercooler, can you tell me what you think? Does anyone know exactly how much more eficient the Stage 1 is over the Stage 2.

 

funkus - I've got the same question regarding stage 1 vs stage 2 difference in performance. I don't plan on racing, just driving to work and other normal stuff.

I'm thinking that at some point an intercooler would be a good long term investment in the car since Texas summers are so hot. The intercooler should help with any potential detonation issues. It's just so dog gone expensive that I'm planning on just going with stage 2 for now.

 

I don't know how long you guys plan on keeping your foci but when the time comes to sell your better off selling it stock.So in my opinion it will probably be easier to sell a stage2 aerocharger than a stage1.Just something to keep in mind.

 

tuner1 is right. Any aftermarket Turbo on any car is a "red flag" for a potential used car buyer. Doing something like that, which I plan to do myself eventually, means you are commiting yourself to that car for the rest of its natural life. Most people wouldn't have read all the reseach on how good these kits are on Forums like the FJ and would be scared off by potential problems real or otherwise. Think of regular Joe or Jane looking for a used car and seeing 'aftermarket turbo equipped'. You might as well say 'previously raced' in the ad. Resale of a Focus is poor enough as it is. The above holds true for just about any other mod performance or cosmetic. Out of millions of Focus owners there are maybe a few thousand tuners who are all here on the Jet. When it comes time to sell; your potential market numbers in the thousands instead of the millions.

 

No problem there. I plan on keeping the car for a long time and when I'm ready for someting different my wife will be more then happy to replace her Hyundia rice box for the Focus!

 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Aerocharger is a bolt-on application. Since it is self lubricating you don't have to run oil or cooling lines or anything like that. So I believe you could easily return an Aerocharged Focus back to stock. Sell the returned to stock Focus in the local paper and sell the used Aerocharger on focaljet. Problem solved!

 

funkus--
welcome to the club. sorry i've been m.i.a, i'll be back at it full time late next week. you guys made a good point about resale of mod cars. since the aerocharger is a bolt-on unbolt deal, in 3 or 4 hours you're back to stock for trade-in or reselling, with an aerocharger kit in a box that can be put on the next focus, or sold to someone else. any money you invest inside your engine is money down a woodchuck hole or worse. anything you can unbolt easily, without a trace is the wisest investment.

for install, you could cruise up to danbury ct and hire hocus focus to do it, or if you need someone closer i have pals at washington garage in bergenfield, nj who serviced zx3boostednj's auto trans focus.

 

Hi Jim. Thanks for the reply. Hope you're feeling better.

Bergenfield, that's great! Only an hour drive. Jim, can you e-mail me with the phone number and the person's name who I should talk to over there? It's mreina@netzero.net

That's a big help. If you don't have the number don't worry about. I can get that. I want to make sure I get this done right. So these guys at Washington garage have already installed at least one other Aerocharger on a Focus?

Thanks!!!

 

Funkus, where in SI are you? My GF lives over there, maybe one day we can meet up and shoot the s**t.

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JC (just curious), how much was stage 1??

Thanks in advance, appreciate it

Focused

 

Why does it take 4 weeks for delivery?

 

Stage 1 is $1950.

It takes 4 weeks to ship the turbo because they don't have kits waiting on the shelves. They are made to order.

Remember, you're buying a major performance enhancement for your car, not groceries.

 

can you tell me what hp/tourque gains will it give?

 

About 50hp, 50lb-ft.