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Ordered new Nissan vehicle today.

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#1 · (Edited)
OK so I went for a second more extensive test drive of the Nissan frontier and placed an order for a…

2006 Nissan Frontier Nismo
King Cab 4WD (4.0L 6cyl 6 speed Manual)
Utility bed package
Side Airbags
Floormats
Traction Package (Vehicle Dynamic Control (VDC), Hill Start Assist (HSA) and Hill Descent Control (HDC).)

Dealer offered me invoice (which is exactly the same as what edmunds.com listed as “invoice” on the car plus tax, title, registration, weight surcharges, and sales tax.)

Trading in my current car is optional, but if I choose to do so I would get at least $6,000 for it in a few months when I actually go to trade it in (with almost bald tires, about 60,000 miles, and some gouges on the rear bumper, but otherwise in very good shape) If I sell the car private party before it comes time to trade it in, I can just pay the 6,360 difference on delivery. (CT charges sales tax only on the difference between the 2 vehicles, not based on the initial sale price) The car is a ZTS mach focus. The dealer told me since they were not paying anything extra for the car for being a limited edition car if I do trade it in, I can strip out/ replace any parts for standard ZTS parts I wish, as long as they parts I swap our are in good shape. So the $6000 is assuming I take out things like the HID headlights etc… and just put in standard lights instead. They are not offering me more money for them, so they do not need them to trade the car in.

This came about from a lack of stability control or side impact airbags in my current focus (if you don’t know why that is such an issue to me, do a search on my past posts!) lack of manual transmission, and a lack of space to move gear around. I can not fit a tool box, a drum set, or a ½ stack (amp, and 4x cab) in my sedans trunk. Let alone more than 1 of those at a time.

I am still debating what I want to do with my focus… It’s really a love hate relationship. I really do like the cars, but I hate all the little crap it gives me, and the fact it is not configured the way I want it at all. I am partially debating keeping it as an urban runabout car, and using the truck just in snow or when the focus does not have the cargo room to move stuff I need. The problem with that is the fact the cost of insuring a second car, and the cost of parking it is going to probably far out weight the cost of extra wear and tear on the truck and worse gas mileage. If I can cheaply insure both cars I am tempted to keep both cars, but I don’t think that is happening. If I did do that, I might be able to make the focus a fun project car.

I am planning on moving so my need for an urban runabout depends on I am on the transit grid or not. If I can get a good place with easy access to public transit, then I won’t need a urban runabout, and the truck can be used just for when I need to move stuff, or make long trips off grid.

Maybe I can buy a REALLY cheep ZX3 as a beater or something.
 
#7 ·
Thameth said:
Why'd you decide on the Frontier over the Tacoma?
Just wasn’t feeling it. For some reason I just like the frontier.


As for the Audi, I do like it, but I just could not see having 2wd, instead of 4wd. A less powerful engine and a selling price of 4k more. Plus I think the Audi may still be a little to small to do what I want to do with it. Also the Audi is a first model year car. I have enough bad luck to not tempt problems. Also it just seams like it is a little too “nice” to be hauling stuff around with it. Maybe in a few years I can pick up a used one as a second car.
 
#9 · (Edited)
LOW FOCI said:
Congrats but you should keep your money you work for in OUR country!
[rant]
When American companies are un-unionized and stop spewing crap I will. If Americans could produce competitive products we should be EXPORTING our stuff to other countries. If the product is not good enough for any other country, why should I buy crap just because it supports American jobs? What should I buy instead a ford ranger? A truck that has not been redesigned in like 15 years, and lacks modern design, or safety features. Or maybe I could get the cheep POS Colorado with a 5 cylinder engine that gets the gas mileage of a V6, with only the power of a 4 banger?

Also MY economy is not foolishly based economy that only sells stuff in a local market; it has global ties to the world economy. Funny the part of the country I live in has some of the highest pay rates, the lowest unemployment rates, and lo and be hold we have NO car manufacturing plants! Americans should focus on what they do best, being a highly educated service economy. Americans suck at making hard good, and we are NOT competitive in that sector on the world level. If we want to keep our standard of living high compared to the rest of the world we better stay ahead of the rest of the world in skills. If you want Americans to be mediocre and just be high school educated factory workers, don’t be surprised in 20 years when the average Chinese, or Indian citizen lives to a higher standard than Americans do. India already has a middle class of over 300 million people, more than the entire population of the US, and there economy is just starting to pick up!

The part of the country I live in is not a very pro union place, especially when unions make unreasonable demands, and already have benefits WELL above the industry average for un-unionized workers. For example the NYC transit strike that happened a few days before X-miss. All that did was PISS OFF the general population, and make people not want to budge at ALL on negotiating benefits.

There is such disgust to unions that I know of instances where people have gotten divorced over a spouse working for a company like GM, since it deals so much with a union.

Unions should really work on there image, they are doing a good job of making people in the northeast even less receptive to buying an American car. As much ridicule as people get in Detroit for driving a non domestic car, you get just as much ridicule for driving an American car in the northeast. Domestics ARE the minority statistically in the northeast. Imports FAR outsell “domestics.” Domestic dealers are slowly disappearing, going out of business, the Chevy dealers almost look like ghost towns. These big car lots that have not been fully utilized in years, remnants of days gone by where GM was the #1 car company (the rest of the US may still buy GM, but new England is not a huge gm car fan, the only thing anyone buys at all from them are some of there SUV’s or Saturn’s) All the imports keep expanding, and remodeling there showrooms, renting space off site, or building parking garages to house there cars. If you are trying to get a business job here, don’t even think of pulling up in a newer Taurus. I can not think of a more humiliating car to drive that screams “I have no taste or ambition to succeed”[/rant]
 
#10 ·
LOW FOCI said:
Congrats but you should keep your money you work for in OUR country!
he works for circuit city. they get "overnight shipments from japan" all the time.

plus most japanese cars are assembled in the US anyways.

my focus was hecho en mexico, same goes for SRT-4's and other cars. then there's plenty made in canada;)
 
#11 ·
placed an order for a…

2006 Nissan Frontier Nismo
King Cab 4WD (4.0L 6cyl 6 speed Manual)
Utility bed package
Side Airbags
Floormats
Traction Package (Vehicle Dynamic Control (VDC), Hill Start Assist (HSA) and Hill Descent Control (HDC).)
Nice choice.:thumbup:
 
#12 ·
LOW FOCI said:
Congrats but you should keep your money you work for in OUR country!
Part of the money goes to the Nissan workers in Tennessee.
Nissan Motor Manufacturing in Smyrna and Calsonic in Shelbyville is doing wonders for the economy down there.
 
#13 ·
BAWWWWWWAHHHHAAA

Someone who bitches about SUVs and Trucks goes out and buys one ;)

Good luck with it :)
 
#14 ·
LOW FOCI said:
Congrats but you should keep your money you work for in OUR country!
Ford offers nothing he wants.

Ford offers nothing I want.

why should we buy a vehicle that doesn't meet our needs.
 
#17 · (Edited)
biker16 said:
Ford offers nothing he wants.

Ford offers nothing I want.

why should we buy a vehicle that doesn't meet our needs.

Why bitch/wine about it on a Ford related DG then? The only thing Ford cares about is how to make money, not people bitching about vehicles they make overseas and why we dont get them here. If things where that simple, I'm pretty sure Ford would have done it. Why complain? Its just going to fall on deaf ears for the most part, since often what people want on the internet is far different then what actual people buy.

Go out and buy what you want...no one is holding a gun to your head.
 
#18 ·
LOW FOCI said:
Congrats but you should keep your money you work for in OUR country!
That's a pretty narrow-minded statement. Toyota has an assembly plant right here in the bay area..... how do you know it didn't come from there? Not like my focus which came from Mexico.... Just because the company is based somewhere, doesn't mean the workers and production aren't elsewhere.
 
#19 ·
OK, I'm curious about this - and I've seen it before on this board and on FF. Why would a bunch of people who drive a small, FWD car that is known for good handling, sprightly performance and good fuel economy become envious of someone who decided to buy a 4wd pickup that weights probably 4500 lbs., has OK acceleration but handling and braking that are really not remotely in the same class, and fuel economy that is drastically worse (and I don't really care what the EPA numbers say)?

Dude, you can buy whatever you want - although as a Focus owner, my immediate reaction is "I wouldn't have a giant lump like that clogging up my driveway if Nissan paid me to take it." That is your choice. But every time someone decides to become an ex-Focus owner and get a 4WD truck or a truck-based SUV, all these other people start coming out of the woodwork, going "great choice - I'm envious." What is with that? Is everyone here bipolar or something?
 
#20 ·
Fordson said:
OK, I'm curious about this - and I've seen it before on this board and on FF. Why would a bunch of people who drive a small, FWD car that is known for good handling, sprightly performance and good fuel economy become envious of someone who decided to buy a 4wd pickup that weights probably 4500 lbs., has OK acceleration but handling and braking that are really not remotely in the same class, and fuel economy that is drastically worse (and I don't really care what the EPA numbers say)?

Dude, you can buy whatever you want - although as a Focus owner, my immediate reaction is "I wouldn't have a giant lump like that clogging up my driveway if Nissan paid me to take it." That is your choice. But every time someone decides to become an ex-Focus owner and get a 4WD truck or a truck-based SUV, all these other people start coming out of the woodwork, going "great choice - I'm envious." What is with that? Is everyone here bipolar or something?
I'd have to agree....it is pretty amazing what people say and do here. Maybe its a Mob mentality ??
 
#21 ·
Nice choice. My dad had one of those. Very reliable smooth truck!

And to the above two posts, different times call for different cars. I buought my focus becuase I needed to commute up and down a twisty road every day while I was in college. I needed a small, cheap car, with good gas milege to get be to and from school. So I got the focus. Thing is, now, I drive about 5 miles to work and back everyday, so I don't care so much about all the things that made me buy it in the first place.

I don't have the time or the extra cash for track fees, tires, brakes, and whatever breaks to track my car, and don't like driving like crazy on the street. I DO however, go camping and snowboarding all the time. It would be nice to have a truck.

Don't judge peoples decisions based on your life. Different strokes for different folks, ya know?
 
#22 ·
Dato said:
Don't judge peoples decisions based on your life. Different strokes for different folks, ya know?

That isnt the point..the person who bought this vechicle has always posted that how trucks/SUVs are wasteful and take up too much space.

I have no problem with people buying what they want..but to do a 180 turnaround and get something you first stated sucked or whatever...well you have to left wondering. Its much like someone going out and getting a Minivan or something just because they want it LOL
 
#23 ·
ahhh, I guess I haven't been paying much attention.

But still, peoples opinions and needs change over time.

And don't knock minivans maing. A lady at my work has a brand new loaded honda odyssey, and that thing kicks ass! If it was AWD, I'd dake it over any SUV 8 days out of the week! :lol::lol:
 
#24 ·
SilverSVT said:
That isnt the point..the person who bought this vechicle has always posted that how trucks/SUVs are wasteful and take up too much space.

I have no problem with people buying what they want..but to do a 180 turnaround and get something you first stated sucked or whatever...well you have to left wondering. Its much like someone going out and getting a Minivan or something just because they want it LOL
SUV just for the sake of an SUV is waistful, and i still follow that mindset. The issue I am haveing is the focus is just too small to hall my gear around with. I have since taken up learning drums, and a number of my friends play instruments (which are NOT small) I simpally can not fit the stuff in a focus any more. The car I like more is the a3, but that isnt big enought either. The other issue was i wanted a car with Stability control, side airbags, and manual, that can fit my gear. The nissan was the cheepest vehical that met all those requiorments that i liked.

It is still not 100% ideal, or exactally what I would want, but based on what is availabel in the US, it was the best option.

I would have porefered it if they offered it with a 4cylinder turbo diesal, i dont need the v6, but that is the only way to get it with 4wd.

The audi a3 to get awd was almost $35,000 and only avialable with the dsg (they don't offer a 2.0t manual awd car.

Depending on my budget, and how much parking space i have i am considering keeping 2 cars, one compact for most use, and then the truck can be used for fun events, halling stuff around etc, and otherwise stay parked when it is not neaded. The problem is that depends on how much parking 2 cars will cost me over one, properity tax, registration fees, and insurance on the second car. The cost of all those may overtake the cost of just driving the frontier instead of have 2 cars.

maybe i should look into getting my first motercycle, i been wanting one for a wile.
 
#25 ·
Dato said:
Nice choice. My dad had one of those. Very reliable smooth truck!

And to the above two posts, different times call for different cars. I buought my focus becuase I needed to commute up and down a twisty road every day while I was in college. I needed a small, cheap car, with good gas milege to get be to and from school. So I got the focus. Thing is, now, I drive about 5 miles to work and back everyday, so I don't care so much about all the things that made me buy it in the first place.

I don't have the time or the extra cash for track fees, tires, brakes, and whatever breaks to track my car, and don't like driving like crazy on the street. I DO however, go camping and snowboarding all the time. It would be nice to have a truck.

Don't judge peoples decisions based on your life. Different strokes for different folks, ya know?
No, with respect - you missed my point. Not that this person bought the truck - hey, whatever you want for your next vehicle and that's because needs change. My thing is, why are all these other people, who you would think are happy Focus owners, posting, going "I'm jealous" and "wow - wish I had one!"

Then why do they own a Focus? I would bet if you went to a Civic or Mini board and said you just bought a 4wd truck, people would be saying, "whatever - but I will keep my car, because that thing is too big/doesn't drive nice/burns too much gas..."

See what I mean? Are there just a lot of closet 4wd people here or something?
 
#26 ·
Fordson said:
No, with respect - you missed my point. Not that this person bought the truck - hey, whatever you want for your next vehicle and that's because needs change. My thing is, why are all these other people, who you would think are happy Focus owners, posting, going "I'm jealous" and "wow - wish I had one!"

Then why do they own a Focus? I would bet if you went to a Civic or Mini board and said you just bought a 4wd truck, people would be saying, "whatever - but I will keep my car, because that thing is too big/doesn't drive nice/burns too much gas..."

See what I mean? Are there just a lot of closet 4wd people here or something?
because having multiple vehicles that do the same thing would be pointless. Yeah, if we could have one vehicle to run at buttonwillow, turn around drive it 400 miles on one tank, then take it to the snow would be great, but we can't. So having 2 very different vehicles is a way of life for us. I know one of the "i'm jealous" commenters has a focus that probably sees just as much race time as track time now. A truck would make a great tow vehicle, seeing as how he can't exactly tow his focus with another one.