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You get what you pay for. I doubt that a pacesetter would last one winter in Detroit. Save your money and get the MBRP. They are located about two hours north of Toronto and if you come to them they will install the exhaust for free. This link is to a recording of the MBRP exhaust on my Focus. Click me for MBRP sound file
I'm not sure exactly how much HP it gives but it allows the engine to rev higher much more freely.
Click me for pictures of the MBRP Exhaust being installed on my Focus.

[ 09-27-2002, 10:01 AM: Message edited by: Euro Ford Fan ]
 

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All this crap about pace-setter being pieces of junk is just crap. I have had mine for a year and a half now and no problems what-so-ever. I live on the Gulf Coast, lots of salt and high humidity. Mine has not an inch or rust and has performed superbly. I got mine from modern performance. This is not a get what you pay for deal, it simply is the best pricing on the market. I also have the pace setter header and not one bit of trouble out of it. I can't say the same for some folks over the last year who have had problems with their JBA cracking, and they paid almost double what I did. *Just my 2 cents from someone who actually owns one* It's not just hear say.

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the northern winters coat your car in salt, man. coat it. salt and ice and all that crap, and it's not like the 'coastal' salt breeze, unless you are driving in the ocean's salt water. It's sick. i'd say in detroit, go with stainless. hell, if you are going to replace the exhaust, do it ONCE.

next week im putting a magnaflow on my car from newedgeperformance, and while it is up on the lift i think i am gonna paint underneath w/ some undercoating...get some protection before her first winter.
 

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Originally posted by Bane8268:
[QB] *Just my 2 cents from someone who actually owns one* It's not just hear say.[QB]
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Just for reference my opinion is based on first hand experience. I owned a pacesetter exhaust and header for my Geo Storm GSI. After all the paint fell of the first time I started the car the muffler and tip was covered in rust by the end of January and the header flange failed by March. I ended up getting a new system under warranty after complaining for three months, but still you get what you pay for.
 

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i've had my pacesetter shorty header(non coated) and the exhaust as well for almost a year now and have had no problems at all. header is still together(rather than messing up the first 2 times and coming out with a gen III header like some companies), and the exhaust is still good. no it's not stainless steel, but i live in texas where rust isn't that much of an issue. detroit it may be an issue. yes you get what you pay for: meaning stainless steel vs. aluminum!! i may upgrade someday, but for now i'm sticking to the pacesetter!!
 

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Well I like how the MBRP sound's, and yea in winter there is alot of salt on the road's over here in Detroit, and I wouldn't like to change my exhaust every year, and a stainless exhaust is what I need......any body know's where I can order the MBRP exhaust? I rather pay 100 buck's more then change the exhaust every year. tx
 

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I live in the NE and we get quite a bit of snow and salt. I for one go to the automated type car washes no less than once a week, and get the underspray wash too. Also, when you first get the system, before handling it with bare hands etc... give it a good wipe down with tack cloth and cover the whole thing (3 or 4 light coats) in duplicolor high-temp spray paint.

I've owned 2 Pacesetter cat-backs in my day and neither of them ever rusted in the slightest using these precautions.
 

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who ever does not own a pacesetter should shut there mouth! I have had mine for some time and it is great, no problems. yhea you get what you pay for a non-stainless system. still mandrell bent! still high flow muffler w/resonator and you know what for every guy that i beat with a highly polished stainless steel system, they can keep there $400 stainless sytem high polished look at me system! you know thw polishing adds at least 10 whp! We choose our systems for a reason PRICE!
 

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Amen! zeketrx!
 

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My bro was running it on his escort, It is nice sounding but it only lasted a little over a year before it rusted out. (washed it atleast once a week in winter too) If you are gonna be driving it year round you might want to save up for something stainless. It will pay off over a 2-3 year period.
 

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im all for pacesetter!! i have it. i wont trade it for any other exhaust.(maybe HKS or a custom titanium) im enjoying mine.i just want the pacesetter race header now!!
 

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The Pacesetter exhaust is a decent exhaust for the money but we highly recommend a stainless system such as the Borla.

Laterz!
Gerardo Garcia III
 

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are the yo dude exhausts any good... b/c that the next cheapest on the exhausts for the focus... the prices were just cut to 280.00 does any one own one and how much better is the hp and how loud is it?
 

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i also just saw the magnaflow ct back over at focs central for 299 which is do-able for me... how are the hp gains on that and is it even any good or better than the yodude
 

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Originally posted by xtreme1227:
are the yo dude exhausts any good... b/c that the next cheapest on the exhausts for the focus... the prices were just cut to 280.00 does any one own one and how much better is the hp and how loud is it?
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">The Flowmaster catback is all stainless and costs $200 from Summit racing for the focus
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I thought Pacesetter used aluminum coated steel for the piping as well as the muffler, this is the same stuff the factory uses for there exaust systems (not stainless). Stainless will surely outlast coated steel but for someone on a budget this is a very attractive alternative.
 

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Magnaflow ... nuff said
 

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I ordered one today from Modernperformance.com, I'll let you know what I think in a few days. $222.00 for a cat back and a K&N panel filter shipped. On my budget that's very nice.
 
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