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Hey guys I was wondering if any body knows how I would go about doing this? I really want to convert my zx3 to awd because I would like to get into rally. My main objective here is to build a really nice car that will last a long time so I could save money in the long run. Sorry if I posted in the wrong catagory but I thought it would fit right in.

I heard of some sort of jaguar conversion, like the x series. Would you have to buy a donor jag for this?
 

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IMO, you are wasting your time. You don't need AWD to rally. No one had it before Audi introduced it in 1981 and thousands of people have happily done without it since. Racing of all kinds is expensive enough without having a bunch of custom parts in the car that make it harder and more expensive to repair.

If you are absolutely dead set on doing this, the Volvo S40/V50 are available in AWD and are built on the P1 chassis, which is nearly identical to the Focus C1 chassis, which is used on the current (2012) Focus and is based on the C170 platform which is found in all previous USA Foci. That is your best starting point if you want to spend the next few years in the garage rather than out having fun with your car.

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Thanks for the info. You right it sounds like way too much time and money. One more question, which do you prefer in racing fwd or rwd.
 

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I haven't done any rally stuff, so if you are looking for input there, I have none.

IMO, it depends on the power level. A stock Focus is better being FWD than RWD. As you apply power, weight transfers rearward. This increases forward traction (acceleration ability) in RWD, decreases it in FWD. With the amount of power the Focus has, it would not be able to have any positive impact were it RWD with this increased traction. Not so with it being FWD.

There is no doubt that ultimately RWD is faster, but in a light car with relatively low power, FWD can be an advantage. In rally, where traction is limited so the weight transfer I spoke about above is less, I would imagine that it is even more so.
 

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Fwd can get it done in rally, check out the sandblast rally results this year. 4th overall was a focus, fwd with boltons. Rally is about car prep and knowing how to conserve a car.
 

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In most circumstances FWD is faster than RWD on loose surfaces because FWD is able to put the power down more effectively. RWD causes too much power-oversteer and when the car starts oversteering too much you have to come off the power in order to fix it. With FWD you can keep on the power a lot more and it will pull you out of slides.

As far as an AWD conversion for the focus... It would be bad ass, but not very logical since it would take so much work, and there are already plenty of perfectly good AWD cars out there in the world. There are already several threads on the subject. If you want an AWD Ford get an Escort Cosworth.
or swap the Cosworth YB into the Focus like this:
http://passionford.com/forum/restorations-rebuilds-and-projects/316809-focus-cosworth-conversion-shes-on-the-floor-now-15.html
http://passionford.com/forum/restorations-rebuilds-and-projects/70813-focus-rs-4x4-cosworth-updated-03-02-2012-a.html
 

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With the right driver you can beat AWD cars with a FWD car. So I recommend spending the time and money that converting to AWD would take and putting it towards rally school. Just look at the raw results of almost any rally especially the Max Attack series. You will see FWD cars placing very high overall.

Also on slippy surfaces on unfamiliar corners you want to "turn before the corner" and use a late apex. In a FWD this means coming in a bit too fast and using the sliding action of the car as brakes. The way you stop oversteer in a FWD is to mash the gas and point the front tires where you want to go. This makes FWD more fun (to me) than RWD in the woods.

Have you entered a rallycross event (scca) before if not you should try it!

Bottom line... put a cage in your car and go rally.
 

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the jaguar stuff would work with modifications, I wrote an entire thread where I compiled information on how it would need to be done like 3 yrs ago. I guess now its seeming possible to use parts from a mazda cx-7 with the duratec motors as well...
 

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Hey guys I was wondering if any body knows how I would go about doing this? I really want to convert my zx3 to awd because I would like to get into rally. My main objective here is to build a really nice car that will last a long time so I could save money in the long run. Sorry if I posted in the wrong catagory but I thought it would fit right in.

I heard of some sort of jaguar conversion, like the x series. Would you have to buy a donor jag for this?
If you are still in the market for AWD components for your Focus, might I suggest Drexler Motorsport. They're based out of AU, but USA has dealers. Drexler Motorsport offers differentials, driveshafts, and more for a successful conversion.
 

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Not that it isn't the bastard of the lineup, but I believe the 90's Lotus Elan was prototyped in FWD and RWD, and the FWD spanked the RWD every time, so they built it FWD
 
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