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Spec clutch and flywheel

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Is any one running this set up? I have searhced under "spec" and did not come up with anything. I am looking at their stage 3 clutch with lightweight option, and their flywheel also. Any comments?
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I don't know but I bet its nice!!!

Wish I could get that very combo right now.



edit to add:
Well they get much better marks from me then centerforce. I would not hesitate to buy it!
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Any one that is not wagering if it is nice or not...LOL...seriously thanks for the feed back. I just want to know if it is all that Spec made it out to be when I talked to them today.
I don't know anything about Spec clutches. Their prices are about even with Clutchmasters. If you are going to use the light weight flywheel (aluminum) make sure you get a clutch disc that has a sprung center (the stock SVT clutch is solid center and the spring action is in the flywheel). They don't give any information as to what the difference between the different "stage" clutches are. I would make sure you find out before you order one.

Unless you are racing and willing to change clutches often don't use a "button" type clutch (the only reason to build it this way is to cut rotational mass down so you can shift faster without the syncros having to work so hard). The problem with them is they have about 1/2 of the total friction surface of a full disc clutch and as such they wear out faster.

I have a FS Aluminum flywheel on my car with a stock pressure plate and clutch disc. I really like the reduction of rotaitional mass (about 13# less than stock) the engine revs faster (mostly noticable in the lower gears and on bliping the throttle on down shifts to match revs) It does not idle as smooth but I knew that going in. The problem with this setup is there is a lot of transaxle noise because of the solid disc. I have purchased a stage 2 clutchmasters PP/CD and just have not had the time to install it yet. It does have a sprung center disc. I hope it will cut some of the gearbox noise, (I am actually getting used to it now and it does not bother me as much as it used to).

Just ask them a few questions before you order anything, A full tilt racing clutch is not designed to work on the street very well and will not last very long but has it's advantages in performance. Usually you give up a lot of service life in stop and go driving when you reduce mass AND increase torque capability (RACING CLUTCH)

Long answer to your question but IMHO the Aluminum Flywheel and a "Stage 2" pressure plate with "sprung center" disc is the ideal setup for the street unless you do a lot of drag racing (and maybe even if you do). If you go for the road course play days you should not be slipping the clutch at all once you leave the pits. So as long as the clutch is able to hold 150ft/lbs of torque you should not have any problems.

If you don't match the speed of the engine to the gear you have selected and slip the clutch a lot, then you need a clutch that will take the abuse or adjust the spacer between the steering wheel and the seat back. The last idea is much less expensive.
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Well, if you go on their site you can see the difference in their stages. They explain each stage. I talked with them on the phone today, and told them my driving habits, how often I drag race, and the power I plan on making. I also told them this would be going on a daily driver. They suggested stage three. They put it in terms I could understand which was stage three is the highest stage they would do on the street/race use. It supposedly will last me just as long, if not longer, than the stock clutch, and has great "light clutch pedal feel" with excelent grip. So, I was just wondering if any one had any stages of the Spec clutches, and wanted to see if they had any positive or negative feed back on them. Thanks for your reply.
Yeah, I'd like to know too since we were thinking about the Spec stage 3 or 4.

InfraredSVT...Did Spec say anything about the stage 4 that made you decide against it? Just wondering what they said since the stage 3 and 4 are described as street/strip.

Funny thing, after going to sites for Fidanza, Clutchmasters, and Spec, the descriptions for all 3 flywheels are nearly identical in specifications. Descriptions of clutches for Clutchmasters and Spec are nearly identical, photos are of different clutches but you can kind of see a similarity. I do believe that Spec is a major manufacturer.

Back in the day (makes me feel kind of old
) when I had my talon, I ordered a Clutchmasters clutch, was very poor quality. Diaphragm fingers were uneven, and all they did was change the leverage point on an otherwise stock clutch, paint job was even ugly. Needless to say I returned it even though it would have probably run fine, but I couldn't see paying that kind of money for it. ACT was a newcomer and I ordered one from them. It was a thing of beauty, I honestly felt bad installing it. They made their own diaphragm which was twice as thick as stock, fingers were chromed where throwout bearing would make contact, clutch body was reinforced, and beautiful yellow paint job. Clutch was awesome, very streetable, no chatter, very smooth, and massive grip, for less money.

Now, I don't know if Clutchmasters has gotten better, or ACT worse, but I do wish that ACT made one as another option.
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I would think Clutchmasters is much better now since tom uses it on his 435 fwhp turbo zx3 and his 310fwhp turbo svtf car without any problems.

www.C-F-M.com is a dealer for clutchmaster, so they can give you a good price for that. They have the cm flywheel in stock along with a stage 4 clutch. They can also sell a spec clutch a little below spec price on the website if you really want it. I would personaly go with clutchmaster, but it is your choice.
Visitor, I feel the same way, I would LOVE for ACT to get it's act together
and produce a clutch like the 2100 they have for the DSM's(Ive owned 5 of them) I contacted them a week or two ago about making me a FW/Clutch clombo for the SVT, I need to give them dimensions and stuff to see if something they already have will work. About the FW, I would personally go with a forged chromoly steel unit ONLY. The 2pc FW's with the Alum. bodies and steel friciton plates aren't what I want b/c the metals will expand and contract at different rates and stress eachother. I'll see what they say.....
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Regarding excess transmission noise with the FS aluminum flywheel, is that just during shifting, or does that occur while the transmission is in gear as well?

Also, everyone keeps talking about the Clutchmaster site and the SPEC site, but doing a search for "SPEC" and "clutchmaster" on Google doesn't turn up those sites... Any idea where should I be looking?
Yeah, I'd like to know too since we were thinking about the Spec stage 3 or 4.

InfraredSVT...Did Spec say anything about the stage 4 that made you decide against it? Just wondering what they said since the stage 3 and 4 are described as street/strip.

Funny thing, after going to sites for Fidanza, Clutchmasters, and Spec, the descriptions for all 3 flywheels are nearly identical in specifications. Descriptions of clutches for Clutchmasters and Spec are nearly identical, photos are of different clutches but you can kind of see a similarity. I do believe that Spec is a major manufacturer.

Back in the day (makes me feel kind of old
) when I had my talon, I ordered a Clutchmasters clutch, was very poor quality. Diaphragm fingers were uneven, and all they did was change the leverage point on an otherwise stock clutch, paint job was even ugly. Needless to say I returned it even though it would have probably run fine, but I couldn't see paying that kind of money for it. ACT was a newcomer and I ordered one from them. It was a thing of beauty, I honestly felt bad installing it. They made their own diaphragm which was twice as thick as stock, fingers were chromed where throwout bearing would make contact, clutch body was reinforced, and beautiful yellow paint job. Clutch was awesome, very streetable, no chatter, very smooth, and massive grip, for less money.

Now, I don't know if Clutchmasters has gotten better, or ACT worse, but I do wish that ACT made one as another option.
Well, they said the stage three is more for daily driver,and race use. Where the stage 4 is more for race use than daily driving.The said stage 3 is the highest stage they recomend for a daily driver.
The only times I notice the noise from the transaxle are on deceleration (loudest in the lower gears) and sitting at a stop when the gearbox is warm, in neutral and the clutch engaged. The lighter flywheel makes the engine idle less smooth than origional. What I am hearing is the backlash in all of the gears in the transaxle as the input shaft speeds up and slows down with the engine. This is not doing any damage but is noticable.

web sites:
www.clutchmasters.com
www.specclutch.com/specmain.html
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