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stupid qeustion: Converting zx3 zetec to svt zetec ?

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If I just use Ford parts what do I need to change ? Head, intake, exhaust ? What's the price of the parts ?

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don't forget interior


anyways... you would need suspension, wheels, brakes (converting the back to disc), race header, svt snorkle, emblems, front bumper, fog lights, etc.... etc.....

just wondering why you would want to????
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Ray
Sometimes you can find the complete drivetrain for sale on eBay.
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don't forget interior


anyways... you would need suspension, wheels, brakes (converting the back to disc), race header, svt snorkle, emblems, front bumper, fog lights, etc.... etc.....

just wondering why you would want to????
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Hes only talking about the engine. Not the whole car.
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I know of other swaps that would run the same price that I would rather do/done!
*pm all you want...not gonna tell ya* hehe
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your wasting your time and money. just build up your regular zetec.
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your wasting your time and money. just build up your regular zetec.
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that's what im saying, it would be pretty easy to do a total engine swap watch on ebay and you can find full engines for a little over 1000.
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svo_dave
How many regular zetecs you see making even close to 170 whp with no head porting, raised compression and stuff, and even with that stuff they usually don't make much more than that, and there usually not streetable, as with SVT motor, you can get over 170 whp with bolt ons. So I agree with them, don't put svt motor in your car cause you'll put out more hp than the rest of the. BTW, I have seen SVT engines sell for around 1500, and you get a very low mile,reliable motor. Telling someone not to put a SVT motor in a ZX3 is like telling someone not to put a h22 in a civic. They say it cause they don't want to get beat. If you ask me, the SVT motor, mated to a zx3's mtx-75, with the weight of the zx3, that would be a potent car.
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There is a complete engine, trans, wiring, ECU etc etc on ebay. Reserve is $1400 or buyit now for $2200 In reality thats a GOOD deal...to me anyways,
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svo_dave
Wish I had a couple grand sitting around, I want to buy another SVT engine to play with.
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How many regular zetecs you see making even close to 170 whp with no head porting, raised compression and stuff, and even with that stuff they usually don't make much more than that, and there usually not streetable, as with SVT motor, you can get over 170 whp with bolt ons. So I agree with them, don't put svt motor in your car cause you'll put out more hp than the rest of the. BTW, I have seen SVT engines sell for around 1500, and you get a very low mile,reliable motor. Telling someone not to put a SVT motor in a ZX3 is like telling someone not to put a h22 in a civic. They say it cause they don't want to get beat. If you ask me, the SVT motor, mated to a zx3's mtx-75, with the weight of the zx3, that would be a potent car.
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ok...first off, I think your crazy. Why put a SVT motor in when you could swap a pzev in and be running bolt ons and beat a stock SVT? Not only that but the SVT motor will be no more soon so why buy one?

Secondly...its not H22...its B16 or B18...H series bolt in to accords and preludes..yea you can put one in a civic but its heavy as [censored] compared to the B18 or B16 and will make the same power when fi
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svo_dave
We make pretty close to same numbers as PZEv, and guess what, the PZEV motor probably won't be around that long, their talking about switching to a all new 2.0 in 05 or 06 made from same people that make PZEV. Also, I was referring to a h22a in a civic, I know alot of people that have done b18 swaps of of integras and what not and run mid-high 15's if that, and I know people that have put in h22a's and run mid-low 14's with nothing else. From what I have seen h22a is the way to go, if you want to stay n/a anyways, I hear its a real tight fit to try to fit a turbo in their with the prelude motor.
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B-18 in civics running mid to high 15's?????!!!!! Those people you know suck at driving. They obviously are clueless. Either that or every B-18 swap in civics you have seen are BONE STOCK. And what civic are we talking about, 4 door heavy wieght? Are they swapping GSR b-18's? or [censored] LS b-18's? (why someone would swap in a LS-b18 is beyond me unless they just couldn't find a gsr motor)

As far as all motor goes, built to the wall B-18 and H-22 in the same civic would create a similar outcome + - 20hp...its not worth it to do a H-22. Never ever will be. Its a p i t a to swap one in a civic compared to swapping in a b series in the first place.
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svo_dave
People that I know that do swaps most have hatches. And I don't know about there driving but even from a roll they can't hang with my focus were the one with the h22 pulls pretty decent away from me. Most people I know do the gsr swap, but I have known a few that have done ls swap cause they say its better for boost, I don't know. BTW, I even know of a few boosted 1.8's that can't even hang with the stock h22, I mean he's got a k&n, header and exhaust, but all internals and head and stuff are stock. And from what I have seeen, its not that hard of a swap, just doing the wiring is a pain
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svtfocusguy
H22 is a better engine for drag racing. While it is true that B18 w/ FI would make similar power to H22, it would cost more b/c B18 cost about the same as H22 (less demand). So for similar money to your B18 w/ FI you could have an H22 w/ FI and you would be set for a straight line. However, your car would be inbalanced for agressive driving due to the changed weight distrabution. This would change the whole feel off the car and result in a lot of understeer. If you are looking for respect people seem to "like" a car w/ a clean H22 swap due to the increased difficulty (if they know what they are talking about).

Or on the other hand, if you are looking to get laughed at you could buy my 1st car, 1988 Honda Civix DX. 1.5L SOHC 98 hp BEAST!! It comes complete with dented fender, clicking CV joints and even a highly worn clutch
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AtBlue5spZX3
I wanna swap a Pratt and Whitney out of the F16.
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svo_dave
I would love a f1 engine in the focus, but that would be a step down from what I got.
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my vote for a PZEV swap.

Yes they're prolly gonna drop the 2.3 with the next major revision, but htat ignores the fact that the 2.0 duratec is more or less the same engine. 11 mm of deck height difference. Same head, down to the cams and valvesprings. so meh, 2.0 duratec aftermarket = 2.3 duratec aftermarket.
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OmniFocus
I've always loved the idea of a SVT swap into my Focus...

My car is well over 200 lbs lighter than an SVT... The SVT block will bolt directly to my existing MTX-75... I can install a cheap quaife and 4.06 gears to go with it. With the stock MTX-75, I wouldn't have to swap axles or any clutch and shifting hardware, yet I'd enjoy nice close ratio gearing. I'd use either the full SVT wiring harness, or install a pectel.

It'd be a super-fun little cruiser/screamer. I'd never stop driving it.
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svo_dave
SVT Block will bolt directly to MTX-75????? I want one of those in my car bad, and I planned on doing clutch, limited slip, and flywheel all at the same time, but if I could put in a MTX-75, that would be sweeet! I guess I would have to swap axles too?
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