Exactly. Entitlement mentality is out of control. People want everything for nothing and they're still not satisfied. I'm going to start demanding I pay invoice on everything I buy. It's only fair right?because that is what i experience everyday of work. and those of you that talk crap and stereotype car salesman are no better than the crooks that do take advantage of people.
Smart buyers find a way to buy the house for what someone owes the bank - the exact amount, esp. when they're in trouble.i never said my job sucked. as for asking for invoice. sure. i wont show it to you. when you buy a house do they sell it for what they owe on it. do you ask them? what do you do when you buy a used car? there is no invoice.
no disrespect intended at all...but ..um.....maybe in your market but I can picture the teary eyed laughter I would get trying to be "smart" as you say out here.Smart buyers find a way to buy the house for what someone owes the bank - the exact amount, esp. when they're in trouble.
I'm just saying that it happens all the time esp. in this economy. The buyers then get a good deal on it because of someone else's misfortunes. They can then turn around and sell it for more because it's worth more, or they rent it out, obviously depending on the situation.Smart buyers find a way to buy the house for what someone owes the bank - the exact amount, esp. when they're in trouble.
no disrespect intended at all...but ..um.....maybe in your market but I can picture the teary eyed laughter I would get trying to be "smart" as you say out here.
this is the best response in the whole damn thread.Its ture. You had to fight tooth and nail to get paid correctly. If you made the right friends around the store and knew the angles, you never got ripped off. The key was making the desk managers happy. Then you get them to spoon deals to you. I worked with a guy who brought in 6 figures a year easy, half of his sales were spoons.
I never worried about the invoice shoppers, I just made them put their money where there mouth was. You want invoice? Sure thing, pony up the dough and lets go...No one saw my invoices without a signature on the offer to purchase line.
But to those people who smugly pipe up how they always ask for invoice and usually get it, think of it this way. Take what you do for a living and then have your boss or your company say they want you to perform the same task but they feel like you don't deserve to make anything for it. BUT, you still must provide the same level of service.
How many of you would do that? Car sales people are like servers. Gross profit is their tip. Not one of my customers ever got anything less than my 100% attention after the sale, which is why people still ask for me where I used to work over a year ago.
It was a fun job, but until you build a clientele, the day to day stress of making a paycheck will cause many people to seek other employment. Some sales people never need to leave their desk to make a very good living though. But if I ever got back into the game, I'll go into finance, where I can rip you to pieces much easier and with much more profit inovlved.
whatever...that is not right. That is your paycheck. How would you feel if I came to you and robbed you blind? Thats screwing someone. Not selling them a car. You are helping them in the end. They are there for a service that you provide and that is how they pay for it.... In dealerships, you are rewarded for screwing people, it is called commission....
correct, except the sales rep part. I GOOD salesperson probably wont have an issue with the trade. Granted, if I knew there was no gross in the deal, THEN I would try to steal from the trade. AND I admit that may sound wrong to some people but I DON'T work for FREE!When you trade in a car there are 3 values, what it is worth to you, to the appraiser, and to the sales rep. , The price the sales rep shows you for your car is almost always lover than what it appraised for. It is called hooking the deal, it is a way to build gross and commission.
Correct again...but the money goes to the back of the deal, which means that if the customer went and got the car refinanced then the dealer loses that intrest pay. NOT only that, the salesperson doesn't get paid on the back at most dealers. Believe me I wish I did!In the same respect you can hook the rate. You add points to the interest of the deal, in turn making the deal more profitable...
Not totally true...you can get a great deal at ANY dealer...The invoice to EVERY CAR EVER MADE for the U.S. is available online for free. Not only that but you can look them up by dealer and find the exact car you want invoice and all. Get this off the web...then go to the dealer and negotiate from there. Its that easy, really it is.Also, most of the people that think they got over on the dealer rarely does. There are so many aspects for the customer to get taken for, it is ridiculous for anyone to say a dealer will loose money on a deal.
if you call this swindling people, then that explains your 1 year in car sales...You just don't have the right mentality for the job. You can't think of it this way. Its your family or lifestyle that you are trying to provide for.if you are a car sales man, and you are honest you can make a good living, but the temptation to swindle people is so apparent that is worse than peer pressure.