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Ok now some people have told me about the hype of a venom 400 anybody here have the setup, is it serious about any power???? PLEASE HELP I MIGHT ORDER ONE. <img border="0" title="" alt="
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Venom 400 = Smoke and mirrors

It does something very simple and not noticeable to the end user, if not knowlegeable enough to realize what it's doing.

It tricks the throttle into thinking the it is opened more than it realy is, therefore making you feel like you have more power with less throttle - Making the illusion that you have more overall power. When in all actuality all you are doing is going to WOT or close to it sooner than you should be.

But you know, spend your hard earned dough on whatever you think will make your car go supa fast.

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tHE VENOM 400 is an add-on-module that connects to your cars sensors. It incorporates an 8-bit micro-controller that increases engine performance by constantly monitoring the sensors' output characteristics (more than 40 times per second) AND MODIFYING THE INPUT TO YOUR CARS EXISTING COMPUTER. It acctivates when the micro-controller senses that the engine airflow and throttle position require more performance.
 

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no dude it doesnt...al it does is change the voltage the TPS sees so your computer thinks you are at WOT before you are...hype it up all you want, but thats all it does. it connects to ONE sensor the TPS. to do what i mentioned above.

Originally posted by jay--zx3:
It acctivates when the micro-controller senses that the engine airflow and throttle position require more performance.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">when the throttle position and airflow require more performance
that doesnt even make sense man neither REQUIRE performance at ALL. the TP is just where the gas pedal is pushed to...so i dont see how that would make or require any performance.....the airflow is a characteristic of the engine...dont see how that would require any performance or how the metal plate (the throttle position) or the air inside your engine would be able to communicate this to this 5 wire hookup "module" . thanks but try again.

i also noticed you have been telling people you are selling these....is that why you try yto overhype them to be something useful??
 

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Venom 400 = eBay $20 Turbo = Turbonator = Tornado = WASTE OF MONEY.

This has been proven to be a waste. The power claims are false, and Dyno's (as well as common sense) have proved this out before.

It is unfortunate that this item continuously comes up for "discussion". Granted, the newer folks don't know how it has been belabored, but then again, that is what the search function could yield....
 

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No... I have no more venoms for sale. Sorry


And I'm not trying to hype anything up, people asked me for my opinion and I'm entitled to give it. Just because you don't agree doesn't mean you have to accuse me of hyping something up. My whole point was the venom gives you more performance than a chip. I am entitled to give my opinion cuz I have both. However evrybody who bashed the venom has never owned on I bet. it's up to them what they want to do. What I wrote is a direct quote from jc whitney.

HAVE A NICE DAY


[ 03-15-2003, 10:51 AM: Message edited by: jay--zx3 ]
 

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Uh, OK. I had a Venom 400 POS (for 2 weeks, and sold it for more than I paid for it
on eBay, in 2001). It sucked ass. Not opinion, but reality. On the dyno, NO GAIN (albeit no gain with my Diablo Chip either, but I got that to raise the limiters).

Hook up an OBDII scanner, take a read of the TPS % value through the RPM range, at 1-2-3-4K increments. Then hook up the Venom. You will see a substantial increase in the TPS % value (which is the ECU interpretation of how far the throttle is open). So, in the end, it can sample this 40X/second, and all it does still is perform a simple TPS advance.

Get a 65mm T/B, and your results will be more pronounced for less money. Again, no real HP improvement, but throttle response in dramatically increased, and that is what you are feeling in your Butt-Dyno.

Not trying to give you a hard time with this, but put your car on the dyno, with and without the Venom activated. You will prove it to yourself.

Bottom line, NEVER believe the promotional statements associated to tuning products (for the most part). It is advertising after all.

[ 03-15-2003, 11:02 AM: Message edited by: poSSumX ]
 

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What about false advertisment, doesn't there have to some truth behind the statement? If not why wouldn't they just claim 50hp increase to sell more products? I don't know. I just pass cars by quick when it kicks in, if you had one like you claim you have to know what i'm talkin about.

And you mentioned you had one over two years ago?

[ 03-15-2003, 11:09 AM: Message edited by: jay--zx3 ]
 

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Originally posted by jay--zx3:
I just pass cars by quick when it kicks in, if you had one like you claim you have to know what i'm talkin about.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">What do you mean when it "kicks-in"? It does not "kick-in" as you say, it advances the TPS via an electronic signal, which is a constant. Do the research, don't read the advertising. They can claim whatever they want. as long as they made their claim in one test. the best part is the test could've been done on a 300+HP vehicle, with an manipulated dyno (which is fairly easy to do).

All I can say here, and I hate to, is NOOB! You sound like a ricerboy who believes everything you hear, and does not even understand the workings of the modern internal combustion motor.

Done on this thread. Misinformation. I suppose if you painted you car yellow that would make it faster too....
 

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jay, before you had the Venom, if you just stomped the gas pedal all the way to the floor, would it "pass by cars quick"?
Thats all the Venom400 does. It even says as much on their website(if you can read between the lines). How come the install of the Venom is so easy? It's because you unplug the TPS sensor, between your ECU, and your gas pedal, then plug the Venom400 in to your pedal. Then plug the TPS harness coming from the ECU, into the Venom400.
BAM!!! Instant power!!! Or so you'de like to think, for the coin you just spent on that pretty little box.

Oh, and your defense of the Venom400 post, looks like you copy/pasted right off of Venom's website.
Sorry dude, it just doesn't work like they want you to think it does.
 

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When it kicks in or "engages" the red LED light activates, you don't have to stomp the pedal, that's the whole point, when it "senses you need more power ie. merging in to traffic, or passing your ass by" it engages when by giving a little extra gas. I never stomp my pedal to the floor, cuz I don't have to. And no when I had no venom and "STOMPED" AS YOU SAy on the gas I would pass nobody by, cuz focus's are SLOW. AND AS I STATED BEFORE i TOOK THE QUOTE FROM JCWHITNEY NOT VENOM.

PS You all are post whores you pop of in every ****in thread, You post just to see your own writing. Do you have no life???? Last response on this venom topic until dyno results are in....


[ 03-15-2003, 02:56 PM: Message edited by: jay--zx3 ]
 

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jay--zx3=King NOOB! Proven it with each and every post.

Get a 65mm T/B, and you will FEEL more, by the basic comparitive principle alone. What other mods have you done to your car?

Learn engine mechanics before you start spouting off self fullfilling BS.

Again, your post proves the points being made. The TPS is advanced, plain and simple, giving you more gas earlier in the pedaling range.

I suppose you will buy a "Zetec Controller" next...
....oh yeah, they don't exist.

U R own3d, by yourself. As far as postwhoring is concerned, look in the mirror....troll.

[ 03-15-2003, 03:04 PM: Message edited by: poSSumX ]
 

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Ok possum you just said the tb gives you no real gains and now it does. And why did you buy a venom if your so smart??? ooooooh..
 

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Originally posted by jay--zx3:
tHE VENOM 400 is an add-on-module that connects to your cars sensors. It incorporates an 8-bit micro-controller that increases engine performance by constantly monitoring the sensors' output characteristics (more than 40 times per second) AND MODIFYING THE INPUT TO YOUR CARS EXISTING COMPUTER. It acctivates when the micro-controller senses that the engine airflow and throttle position require more performance.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">nice universal quote from venom

look man...it dont do nothin...but dont listen to us guys who have done everything and anything on our cars, who have hundreds of dynoes and dozens of timeslips...listen to the manufacturer who wants to sell u their junk
 

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Originally posted by jay--zx3:
Ok possum you just said the tb gives you no real gains and now it does. And why did you buy a venom if your so smart??? ooooooh..
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Seriously man, try and learn some actual facts before saying things.

You keep contradicting and arguing with yourself!

Read your own posts before you attempt to knock somebody elses factual information.

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Originally posted by jay--zx3:
No... I have no more venoms for sale. Sorry


And I'm not trying to hype anything up, people asked me for my opinion and I'm entitled to give it. Just because you don't agree doesn't mean you have to accuse me of hyping something up. My whole point was the venom gives you more performance than a chip. I am entitled to give my opinion cuz I have both. However evrybody who bashed the venom has never owned on I bet. it's up to them what they want to do. What I wrote is a direct quote from jc whitney.

HAVE A NICE DAY
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">ok let me make this fact

A CHIP DOES NOTHING

SO if the venom is 50% better then a chip lets say, its still NOTHING

DUDE, it DOES NOTHING

that is NOT your opinion you quoted that from the venon webpage that says the same thing for EVERYSINGLE car they make that crap for...it does nothing

EVEN if its 10000% better then a chip, since a chip does nothing for power, that means the venom does nothing

PLEASE, send me one, i will pay shiping charges and loan charges from you, and i will dyno it for you on 10 focus's any weekend you want...and show you NO gains
 

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well, well... The biggest post whore of them all
decides to say what he's said ten times already. Sigh....
 

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Originally posted by jay--zx3:
well, well... The biggest post whore of them all
decides to say what he's said ten times already. Sigh....
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">u gotta be the most gulible person in the world

Hey i just manufactured my own chip...heres teh specs

It goes into the computer ecu, and magically tells it" GIVE ME MORE POWER"

ANd there are 3 settings:

1) Give me more power
2) GIve me even more power
3) Give me SUPER DUPER power

BUt #3 is only for race gas

My chip retails for $399 but its the best...u want one?
 

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Originally posted by jay--zx3:
well, well... The biggest post whore of them all
decides to say what he's said ten times already. Sigh....
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Have you read your posts? You know, the ones with the same exact 'information' you have already said a few times, in this post.



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