Want to race at Lime Rock, NHIS, or Watkins Glen?

Ok, then that is the answer to my first question.
You are going to use an scda event and call part of it yours.
I doubt you will have enough expierenced people off of this and probbily another few forums to be able to run a stand alone day.
Who would be setting the pricing, and who would we be paying? Would checks go to you or scda?
According to their site prices range from a low of $235 to the LRP price of almost $300 at $285.
How could you get cheaper rates?

If it works great, maybe after a few uneventful (read as no crashes) track events, I will sign up.

As for now, I still would like more info. I want to make a descision based on safety as much as anything else.




I'll also note that your thread title is misleading. You know there is no "racing" at a lapping or time trial day.
You are giving the kids on the forums the wrong expectation of what the day will be like.

Ok, then that is the answer to my first question.
You are going to use an scda event and call part of it yours.
I doubt you will have enough expierenced people off of this and probbily another few forums to be able to run a stand alone day.
Who would be setting the pricing, and who would we be paying? Would checks go to you or scda?
According to their site prices range from a low of $235 to the LRP price of almost $300 at $285.
How could you get cheaper rates?

If it works great, maybe after a few uneventful (read as no crashes) track events, I will sign up.

As for now, I still would like more info. I want to make a descision based on safety as much as anything else.

I'll also note that your thread title is misleading. You know there is no "racing" at a lapping or time trial day.
You are giving the kids on the forums the wrong expectation of what the day will be like.

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You're right about one thing, I should not have said "race" in the title of the thread. Of course, my faith in the "kids" on these forums seems to be well-placed, as it seems that no one is under the impression that this is any sort of "race."

At this point in time, I am just trying to get an idea as to how many people are seriously interested in it. I am working with the guy that runs the SCDA, and all of the details will be worked out once I get an idea as to how many people will actually do it, and he gets next years schedules from the tracks in a month or so.

Give me a chance here, Chief. I'm at the beginning stages of this, and I just want to see how many people are interested. That number will determine what things are done and how they will be done. Without that number, I simply can not answer your questions. Please stop jumping on my case and stop making so many assumptions. I might get 10 people that are seriously interested, and I might get 100 people that are seriously interested. If you don't think that I can, fine - but please don't poo-poo my plans on a public forum on the first day.

Since you've already stated that you will not be attending the event, I have marked you down as a "no." There is no need for you to post any more.

I recommend that people have some previous experience. Autocrossing is one way, actual instruction like a skip barber 1 day school is another.
Most clubs do not require any previous experience.

At my first track event at Pocono, a person with a NEW supercharged Jaguar sedan totalled his car on the banking. I saw and heard the whole thing. He crashed because he didnt know how to react to what the car was telling him.
He had 0 experience. Luckily he didnt get hurt.

At the second event I ran, someone racing died at the track. They had many years of expierence.

Dont get me wrong, it's a friggin blast. My goal for next season is 2 days at LRP and at least one at pocono or NHIS.

I do understand that something may happen, but that is why my car is going to have some safety modifications done over the winter.

Since I see some newbie drivers out there replying to this, I am going to reply.

YEs! It is said you SHOULD have autoX experience BEFORE you hit any track. YOu learn better control of your car at lower speeds up to 60mph compared to a downhill at 90 mph and your car all of a sudden pulls you toward a guard rail.

Do you know how to control your car at high speed skid? Probably not. (No you in particular Ray, just general )

Ask yourself this before you pay to run on a track:
1) Did you just get your drivers liences?
2) Have you driven in an autox before for over a year?
3) Have you ever spun out your car?
4) Have you ever crashed or wrecked your car on a highway or back roads?
5) Have you ever hydroplaned, if so what were your reactions?
6) Have you ever had someone cut you off and become agressive?
7) Did you just buy your car?
8) Is your car modified with a RACE suspension or a SHOW suspension?
9) Did you buy a body kit for your car?
10) Is your car a show car?
11) Are you prepared to pay for a new car when you crash this

one?

I will have to finish this later. I have to go study for a test. But your answers will tell you whether or not you should be doing this.

If you don't know your car, don't know where your wheels are, don't know how your car will react in dry and rain, if you are not a confident driver with others around you.

Then just watch the event, observe and hit a few autocrosses to realize at 60mph or less you can get just as much thrill out of your car as you can on the track.


WE are just looking out for you guys. Don't take what tuner says the wrong way.
I'll write more later.

I'd be interested, and would be happy to instruct (have done so for NASA and SVTOA).

EDIT - Lime Rock or Watkins Glen get my vote. NHIS too far, Pocono...no thanks.

To our 'tuner' friend:

No amount of instruction will save you from yourself. Some folks aren't willing or capable of listening or learning to drive better. Sometimes, you make a mistake that gets you in over your head. Sometimes, [censored] just happens and you're a passenger. It's a risky proposition, and anyone who goes to the track should do so with the the appropriate respect.

That said, thousands of newbs take to the track every weekend across the country. Most of them do so without incident, and come away a better driver for it. SCDA are an established club who know how to do this.

So why the negativity? What's your agenda?