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Wolff Racing Isn't Dead haha

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#1 ·
Wolff Racing Isn\'t Dead haha

Just got this email:
The Wolff Racing / ATI Kits are finally ready to go. After 2 years in development
we have done it!! We are the ONLY ones that are offering a totally complete
package. Blower,Tubing & misc, BV, 42lb Bosch injectors,Iridium plugs,Pro-M
Mass air,CPU Flashing of YOUR unit(7 day turnaround from time sent to us at
our shipping address 990 CedarBridge Ave. B7 suite 253 Brick N.J. 08723). These
kits are SOLID. We have over 20,000 miles of testing done. Front wheel HP 244
and TQ 185, all at only 7lb. boost!! These are all certified dyno results.
Retail price is $4950.00 which includes shipping within the U.S. and standard
one year warranty with optional three year available at extra cost from ATI.
Visa,MasterCard,Amex accepted. MUST CALL 848-992-1444 to place your order.
Quantity discounts available of 5 or more. Any dealer inquiries are welcomed
 
#7 ·
Re: Wolff Racing Isn\'t Dead haha

I dunno it seems pretty efficient for a supercharger if I had the cash I might go with it but I just like the TQ the turbos are pulling off and with a decent spool that our choices have at the moment its a hard choice but also about the price look at all the other stuff they are throwing in slike the plugs its seems to be a well thought out kit mabye too late not enough press. Im still leaning twords toms kit possibly.
 
#8 ·
Re: Wolff Racing Isn\'t Dead haha

Ha! They took so long, even focus sport managed to get a SC kit together.
 
#10 ·
Re: Wolff Racing Isn\'t Dead haha

I inquired back in the days about buying a Graphite gasket to lower comp they seemed to be selling, then I got this very same e-mail you had today... I was like wtf... lol isnt that the procharger kit.

btw, 7 day shipping is as cheap as it gets, I just shipped a box to my wife in Hawaii from London ontario canada and it took 23 hours.... LMAO
 
#11 ·
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Wow. Get rid of the Focus and (almost) drop off the 'jet for a year... and this shows up.

April 1st is coming up pretty soon. Maybe they sent it out early by mistake.
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#15 ·
Re: Wolff Racing Isn\'t Dead haha

Just got this email:
The Wolff Racing / ATI Kits are finally ready to go. After 2 years in development
we have done it!! We are the ONLY ones that are offering a totally complete
package.
Blower,Tubing & misc, BV, 42lb Bosch injectors,Iridium plugs,Pro-M
Mass air,CPU Flashing of YOUR unit(7 day turnaround from time sent to us at
our shipping address 990 CedarBridge Ave. B7 suite 253 Brick N.J. 08723). These
kits are SOLID. We have over 20,000 miles of testing done. Front wheel HP 244
and TQ 185, all at only 7lb. boost!! These are all certified dyno results.
Retail price is $4950.00 which includes shipping within the U.S. and standard
one year warranty with optional three year available at extra cost from ATI.
Visa,MasterCard,Amex accepted. MUST CALL 848-992-1444 to place your order.
Quantity discounts available of 5 or more. Any dealer inquiries are welcomed
Sounds like they may want to re-evaluate their market and then re-evaluate their costing. If this was three years ago, and there truly was no other good options, and the tuning was actually an issue, then the price might make sense. But in todays Focus FI market it simply doesn't.

Also, I assume its not CARB certified since if it was, they would have mentioned it in bold.
 
#17 ·
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well you have to remember ,this "product launch" email was probably formulated back in 2003 or early in 04 when they actually were telling people interested. It'll be out in one month.
And maybe at that time, there were no complete kits.
 
#18 ·
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doesnt seem too outrageous if you ask me compared to other prices.. yeah its 5000$ but shipped anywhere in the US, tuning included, pro-m maf (not cheap compared to oem used mafs), chip, injectors, even sparkplugs.. and i dont doupt that its a quality kit. One year warranty..

uses ATI supercharger..

as for 7 days well whos cares if someone else says they'll have it in 3 days? its a week! it'll take you at least a day or two to install it anyway and thats if your not getting it isntalled in a shop... thats a detail
 
#19 ·
Re: Wolff Racing Isn\'t Dead haha

The vortech is much less and shipping is no more than 200.00 at the absolute worst.
The vortech comes with everything as well, including a much more efficient intercooler.

The difference between a 3 day turnaround and 7 days is HUGE. Because with a 3 day your only down at the most 1 week. 7 Days means your most likely down 2 weeks.
3 Days allows you to ship it out and get it back in the same week if your so inclined giving you the weekend to get your car on the road. Whereas 7 days, you are absolutely losing the weekend. Not a good thing.

Plus what in the heck took them so long???
I'm sorry I can't see anyone defending a product that took 2 years to actually come to market when it was promised over a year earlier.

There were alot of people on this bandwagon a year ago, but to think people are going to be supportive after this long??? Plus the product was supposed to be CARB approved. It isn't!!! I just can't see defending this company.
 
#20 ·
Re: Wolff Racing Isn\'t Dead haha

doesnt seem too outrageous if you ask me compared to other prices.. yeah its 5000$ but shipped anywhere in the US, tuning included, pro-m maf (not cheap compared to oem used mafs), chip, injectors, even sparkplugs.. and i dont doupt that its a quality kit. One year warranty..

uses ATI supercharger..

as for 7 days well whos cares if someone else says they'll have it in 3 days? its a week! it'll take you at least a day or two to install it anyway and thats if your not getting it isntalled in a shop... thats a detail
I'll agree it's not "too outragious" depending on how much shipping is. Otherwise every other SC option is less, Jackson racing, Vortec, FocusSport, Powerworks... all less, all as complete.
 
#21 ·
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yeah i thought it was a chip.. but i guess if you send your ecu.. yeah you car is down even in stock form..

but still.. its not really worst than having to schedule dyno time at your tuner and having to wait.. do the tuning.. etc..

and is that for regular zetec or SVT ?.. still 200$

anyway.. its like comapring between gude, precision, tom's kit.. yeah there are differnces, yet people still buy the more expensive one so thats why im saying.. its not THAT bad.. im just saying, as soon as peolpe see something cheaper, the automaticly want more frmo every other company. its like sony and Toshiba.. sony will be more expensive but theres a market for both sony or toshiba TVs..

theres always a cheaper or more expensive kit.. people just want everything for nothing.. thats all there is to it..since something is already out that cheaper and works, well then the new to the market will absolutely without question need to have somethnig better and cheaper than whats already available or its no good
 
#22 ·
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I agree if you look at nothing but price and hardware... sure it's not "that" bad.
But IMO (and it's just my opinion), looking at their history and the other options available. It's defiantely the worst of all the complete kits.
 
#23 ·
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yeah it might be expensive.. but what does jackson racing give as a "complete" kit anyway..

we dont know anything about the kit.. no one as tried it so how can we judge.. same for powerworks.. from what i know.. theres only a select few that have it and its not shipped to general public is it? Focussport, i have never heard anything about it either..

yeah it might be expensive but aerocharger was cheaper than tom's kit but tom still came into the market with an expensive kit and still sold it.. even now its the most expensive.. eys it works.. but what do we know about the wolf kit ?

its alright, you have a right to your opinion but what is their history? yeah i can look at hardware and price and its not that bad.. but what else is there to look at really? for now i mean
 
#24 ·
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Come on man.. now your just going into blind defense of this company like you have stock in it or something. I said it was my opinion.

Powerworks is developed in conjunction with Cosworth what else do you need to know?
Jackson racing has been out for how long? I dont care if people knock the black box.. it's PROVEN to work.
FocusSport SC is not out yet so I wouldn't even discuss it.
VORTECH the direct competition for Wolff is better. Less expensive, Better and more efficient intercooler/aftercooler, full tuning solution as well.
It comes with everything and as we saw with slickshoes... a modified tune away from 290whp!

I understand if your a big procharger fan, or if you like Wolff, that's your perogative. But I emailed this company about 20 times last year asking for a price on the tuner kit that they were supposedly already selling. They NEVER got back to me. Their businesses practices are spotty at best, and personally if I were to buy the product I'd expect the same kind of service.

It's cool if you like it, but I dont think it's fair to knock proven products for one that is over a year late to market, is not what it was advertised it was going to be and is priced higher than comparable kits.
 
#26 ·
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Dude I said its fine you have your opinion, I have mine, so whats wrong with that? We dont need to get in a fight about it or anything.. I'm not getting a SC and I don't care if it is lower in quality and more expensive etc.. All I was saying is don't knock on it caus you don't know anything about it just like I don't. Yes we do know that the Vortech is great, works like a charm and that Powerworks is made with Cosworth. But it could be over priced because it is from Cosworth. You tell me that i blindly defend the company yet i really dont care and am not defending there product. And then you go around and knock them.. isn't that the same thing you are accusing me of doing? Its not out. We don't know..

Better can have alot of different meanings.. depending on who is saying it. And since we dont know enough about it, we shouldn't knock on it.. thats what I meant. No saying current solutions aren't as good or even better than the Wolf SC.. caus i dont know..

Anyway lets not get in a fight about this.. all i meant to say is wait for it to be out then make claims when they are thoroughly compared..

Seriously, take it this way.. I DONT like it.. i dont like anything. I'm just saying from a 3rd person viewpoint, my opinion, which is we should wait.

I guess you dont like them caus you had a bad experience.. i dont have any experience with any of em. Its just not anything to get mad about that a kit is more expensive.. no one needs to buy it.