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#1 ·
---From Motor Trend (October 2004)

When driving, there is no Absolut

Saab is developing a new ignition key that's so good, it's scary. The "Alcokey" concept has a small mouthpiece in the key fob with a transponder that tells the car's electronic control unit how much its driver has been drinking. Using existing antitheft technology, it's triggered when you unlock ther Saab doors with the keyfob. After clicking "unlock," the driver blows into the mouthpiece, and the breath sample passes down a small internal tube with a small semi-conductor. If a red light appears on the keyfob, its triggers the engine immobilizer, and you're calling a cab. If it shows green, you're good to drive. Saab demonstarted the system at an August safety seminar in Sweden. It estimates that commercial production would cost about $300 per car. The technology is early in its development, so if we see it as a Saab option, it won't be for a few years.
OPTION? Why the hell would anyone get this as an OPTION? I can think of a few cases, but most everyone would say screw it. If they want to make this for real, it has to be STANDARD.

--Dan.
 
#3 ·
And whats the margin of error?

What happens when it malfunctions for some reason... and you can't get home?

What if you're a teetotaler and its just ridiculous that you be subjected to such a hurdle?

When running errands around town... do you really wanna have to keep blowing into your key to get the car started after running to the dry cleaners, then to the auto parts store, then to the bank, then to the hardees?
 
#4 ·
Just so everyone knows, this technology has existed for several years and it does work. GM might be the first manufacturer to use it in production vehicles apparently. The system works well for repeated drunken drivers. Still doesn't stop them from driving another car though.
 
#5 ·
Some states require things like this to be installed on your car after your ____ drunk driving (I know Wisconsin does). I personaly think it's a wonderful thing.. and I would love to see this mandatory.

There is nothing I hate more (than stupid street racers who drive like complete idiots- along with all of the other moron drivers) than drunk drivers!
 
#6 ·
I knew a guy in Colorado that had one put on his car because he was a repeat drunk driving offender...

I used to make fun of him all the time.

It seemed to curb his DD days.

There'd have to be some sort of hack someone could use to bypass the sensors.

As for it being an option... WTF? Why would you want that extra hassle unless you were buying it for another person.

Could be useful to mandate that to all teenage drivers until they turn 18 or something. I knew a few kids that drove drunk a lot.
 
#7 ·
A reason you might want to buy the option for yourself is if you have previous DD offenses. Insurance companies might be more willing to insure you, or insure you at a lower cost, if you have one of these.
 
#8 ·
And whats the margin of error?

What happens when it malfunctions for some reason... and you can't get home?

What if you're a teetotaler and its just ridiculous that you be subjected to such a hurdle?

When running errands around town... do you really wanna have to keep blowing into your key to get the car started after running to the dry cleaners, then to the auto parts store, then to the bank, then to the hardees?

pffftt...

i'd MUCH rather have the inconvenience of doing this several times a day... than be killed because some jackass decided he wanted to drive drunk.

small price to pay, dont you think? 2 seconds out of your day?
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and i think this is a wonderful idea. and it should be STANDARD on all cars.
 
#10 ·
And whats the margin of error?

What happens when it malfunctions for some reason... and you can't get home?

What if you're a teetotaler and its just ridiculous that you be subjected to such a hurdle?

When running errands around town... do you really wanna have to keep blowing into your key to get the car started after running to the dry cleaners, then to the auto parts store, then to the bank, then to the hardees?
damn liberals
 
#11 ·
small price to pay, dont you think? 2 seconds out of your day?
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How is my ensuring that I'm not drunk gonna keep me from getting killed by some other DUI?

This is just stoopid plain and simple. It infringes on my ability to operate my motor vehicle, as I've done nothing wrong to necessitate any "monitoring."


Yah... if I had the 10+ Deuce convictions..... I bring it on myself. But being as how I don't.........

Whats next. Governing all cars to not exceed 65mph?
 
#12 ·
small price to pay, dont you think? 2 seconds out of your day?
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How is my ensuring that I'm not drunk gonna keep me from getting killed by some other DUI?

This is just stoopid plain and simple. It infringes on my ability to operate my motor vehicle, as I've done nothing wrong to necessitate any "monitoring."


Yah... if I had the 10+ Deuce convictions..... I bring it on myself. But being as how I don't.........

Whats next. Governing all cars to not exceed 65mph?
i'm trying to argue that if EVERYONE has one of these... it can assure that you can't get killed. going over 65 miles an hour is a LITTLE different than getting behind the wheel after drinking a 12 pack...

speeding will not (generally) endanger lives... but drinking and driving almost always will...
 
#13 ·
Idiotic... you wake up, brush your teeth, and spit out some mouth wash before heading out to work... and your car won't start.
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Not to mention that any device which has the ability to disable the car can malfunction. Now if something like this were a punishment implimented for a repeat DUI offender, then I might look at it differently.
 
#14 ·
Idiotic... you wake up, brush your teeth, and spit out some mouth wash before heading out to work... and your car won't start. Not to mention that any device which has the ability to disable the car can malfunction. Now if something like this were a punishment implimented for a repeat DUI offender, then I might look at it differently.
I know you may be exxagerting as a joke but Mouthwash cannot do that. It just does not have that much alcohol. Not only that but even if it did you'd have to have it in your blood stream no? Also you'd have to blow it in the key first no. If you HAVE TO blow in the key everytime then it might suck. Well actually no it wouldn't. 5 seconds of my life could save a anoter's life.
 
#15 ·
For someone who's never incurred a drunk-driving offense, this is unnecessary and an infringement on his rights.

Someone who has been convicted of a drunk-driving offense, however, should be forced to use this device on their personal vehicle and prohibited from using vehicles without the device for several years. I think that's a no-brainer. The technology can be easily retrofitted.

I can think of several workarounds for those determined to drive drunk, however, so this is no substitute for proper law enforcement measures.
 
#16 ·
small price to pay, dont you think? 2 seconds out of your day?
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How is my ensuring that I'm not drunk gonna keep me from getting killed by some other DUI?

This is just stoopid plain and simple. It infringes on my ability to operate my motor vehicle, as I've done nothing wrong to necessitate any "monitoring."


Yah... if I had the 10+ Deuce convictions..... I bring it on myself. But being as how I don't.........

Whats next. Governing all cars to not exceed 65mph?
it shouldn't take 10+ convictions!! ONE IS TOO MANY!
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#17 ·
yes but sometimes even repeated offenders are not convicted, until they finally kill someone.

i'm not saying i agree with putting that in all cars, some people don't even drink at all and would find this very annoying but it could be offered as an insurance deductable option to have one in the car.

some people are completely against drunk driving but once they're drunk they just don't care and are completely retarded, alcool is known to do that. they go out and start drinking, thinking they won't take the car but once they're really hammered they think "ah to hell with the cab or bus i'm pretty sure i'm the world's best driver" then the next day they regret it but do it all over again. for these people to have an option like this would be a good thing. plus you'd save a little cash on your insurance for being a good boy ...or girl.
 
#18 ·
My mom has been convicted 4 times of drunk driving. I used to drive her to the bar at 15/16 years old and then go and pick her up at 2-3 AM just so she wouldn't drive. Some people simply don't learn from their mistakes!
I'm more than willing to take that "inconvenience" (sp?) to make the roads even a little bit safer.
When I used to work 2 PM to 2 AM, I would be terrified driving home. Not of the police, but by all of the drunk people on the roads.
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This is one place where I would more than welcome "big brother".
 
#19 ·
This is complete BS. With current NY laws you are DUI after 1 beer. My driving ability is no where's near impaired after 1 beer. Another reason I would never buy a sabb.

What happends if you use mouthwash, and then run out the door to get into your car? "Umm... (to boss), I'm going to be late, my car wont let me drive because I washed my mouth out with listerine."

Or what about gums that have alchol in them?

Also, what would stop you from paying some smuck to blow into your keyfob so you can start your car?

Stupid... just another way to limit our freedoms. You want to cut down on drunk driving, and on emmissions? Enhance public transportation.
 
#20 ·
Maybe if you would read a couple of posts up, you would see where someone posted that mouthwash doesn't have nearly enough alcohol in it to affect this at all.

What is the legal limit for NY? .08?
 
#21 ·
My mom has been convicted 4 times of drunk driving. I used to drive her to the bar at 15/16 years old and then go and pick her up at 2-3 AM just so she wouldn't drive. Some people simply don't learn from their mistakes!
I'm more than willing to take that "inconvenience" (sp?) to make the roads even a little bit safer.
When I used to work 2 PM to 2 AM, I would be terrified driving home. Not of the police, but by all of the drunk people on the roads.
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This is one place where I would more than welcome "big brother".
Ya, that's great. Limit the freedom of the majority, to effect the minority.

Bet you are all for banning of guns.. so the people that use them correctly (majority), cant own guns because they think it will help the minority, which more than likely don't buy guns threw legal channels anyway.
 
#23 ·
My mom has been convicted 4 times of drunk driving. I used to drive her to the bar at 15/16 years old and then go and pick her up at 2-3 AM just so she wouldn't drive. Some people simply don't learn from their mistakes!
I'm more than willing to take that "inconvenience" (sp?) to make the roads even a little bit safer.
When I used to work 2 PM to 2 AM, I would be terrified driving home. Not of the police, but by all of the drunk people on the roads.
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This is one place where I would more than welcome "big brother".
Ya, that's great. Limit the freedom of the majority, to effect the minority.

Bet you are all for banning of guns.. so the people that use them correctly (majority), cant own guns because they think it will help the minority, which more than likely don't buy guns threw legal channels anyway.
Info about drunk driving
I'm not about to get into gun control here.
but nobody is suggesting cars be banned.. so your comparison doesn't really work
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#24 ·
For someone who's never incurred a drunk-driving offense, this is unnecessary and an infringement on his rights.

Someone who has been convicted of a drunk-driving offense, however, should be forced to use this device on their personal vehicle and prohibited from using vehicles without the device for several years. I think that's a no-brainer. The technology can be easily retrofitted.

I can think of several workarounds for those determined to drive drunk, however, so this is no substitute for proper law enforcement measures.
Exactly. Install these devices on any vehicle regisitered to the convicted person.
 
#25 ·
My mom has been convicted 4 times of drunk driving. I used to drive her to the bar at 15/16 years old and then go and pick her up at 2-3 AM just so she wouldn't drive. Some people simply don't learn from their mistakes!
I'm more than willing to take that "inconvenience" (sp?) to make the roads even a little bit safer.
When I used to work 2 PM to 2 AM, I would be terrified driving home. Not of the police, but by all of the drunk people on the roads.
Image

This is one place where I would more than welcome "big brother".
Ya, that's great. Limit the freedom of the majority, to effect the minority.

Bet you are all for banning of guns.. so the people that use them correctly (majority), cant own guns because they think it will help the minority, which more than likely don't buy guns threw legal channels anyway.
Info about drunk driving
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