208HP N/A

spinwax · Oct 18, 2002

I dont mean to rain on the parade, but I think anyone with some engine building and fuel experience could build a 208Hp NA focus...
the question remains though, how do you smog it, how does it run on the crappy 91 octane here in NV and Cali, and how is the streetability???

Im sure I could build a 200+ NA Zetec, and I eventually will... No prob!!! but Im SURE that I will and would run into at least a couple of the problems mentioned above..

I would LOVE to hear more about this, and to see how you solved or didnt solve the problems that I mentioned

Russell · Oct 19, 2002

So......is there a SVT intake Manifold involved here tom? Please say yes

[ 10-18-2002, 08:36 PM: Message edited by: Russell ]

1turbofocus · Oct 19, 2002

Block ,honed,line bored , billet main caps ,arp studs,oil holes reworked for better flow

Crank is the stock cast crank and assy. has been balanced

eagle rods

forged pistons

head is the zx3 head

We still need to get the chip guy with the car on the dyno and he will get us about 8 to 15 more hp

will send some one the dynos to post later

the hp and tq would be much higher with boost and for about the same money

For the cost there is NO way i would do this over a turbo

tom

nazthug · Oct 19, 2002

damn, turbo or no turbo tom....those gains are AMAZING on all motor, purely amazing

What the hell is he doin in the chip to gain 8-15whp so easily...damn, tuning is the secret i guess...thats awesome.

I still cant seem to add up the numbers....what compression are you running?

I mean, rods, pistons, balanced crank, dont really add power

The main adders are CAMS/head/intake and exhuast manifolds

What manifold are you using? Can you tell us that, im guessing FR200, but i may be wrong....

Can we know that? Manifold???

That is the MAJOR key in power in these cars, as anyone and everyone with the stock manifold will never make power over 7000rpm, it all peaks out at around 6600rpm, no matter what the cams

[ 10-18-2002, 12:10 PM: Message edited by: nazthug ]

Mexico · Oct 19, 2002

Tom,
Great job. Can't wait to see the dyno.

To a certain someone,
It is always nice to be reminded that a little bit of knowledge is very very dangerous in the wrong hands.

Shiva Chaos · Oct 19, 2002

Originally posted by 1turbofocus:
For the cost there is NO way i would do this over a turbo

yikes

jinstall · Oct 19, 2002

Here in Germany you can buy for $5000 a 2.1 255hp NA motor from Hurricane race motors. I even thought about this but it will not put me at the power I am looking for for the street. But cool none the less.

ZXmurph · Oct 19, 2002

I feel like Tom is tied down to a chair in the middle of the room and we are just firing questions

Thanks for the info Tom-
my latest-
I know you had mentioned it, but this was on a DynoJet at what RPM????

Below 8K???? That has me obliterating my notions of what is possible.

nazthug · Oct 19, 2002

Originally posted by jinstall:
Here in Germany you can buy for $5000 a 2.1 255hp NA motor from Hurricane race motors. I even thought about this but it will not put me at the power I am looking for for the street. But cool none the less.

thats pretty ****ING cheap man..255hp, i know thats crank, but still, damn, thats like 220whp

Awesome....makes me wanna stroke the SOB and put down 230whp with a 2.3L

KillerBeeZX3 · Oct 19, 2002

If this combination was for sale, how much would it cost turn-key?

If it actually can run on pump fuel, what brand/grade fuel was used for the dyno testing of this combination? Was there any octane boost required? Maybe a little

Nitromethane

left over from the Top Fuel boat mentioned in the other post...

1turbofocus · Oct 19, 2002

No SVT parts at all on this car

tom

MichaelXi · Oct 19, 2002

Damn Tom,
You're as much a Night-Owl as me it seems...

I'm looking forward to more info when you get it, but any mod is outta my budget right now, so I'm in no rush.

PM me some time. You may remember, I have an Uncle and Cousin who live 5-7 minutes from that G2G at which I met you. My Uncle MAY have some "Old School NC" Info that you may find valuable. He's a trip. He helped develop the "Legends" series, he's done corporate restorations for Ford, He's worked w/ Winston Cup, He's got a Freakin' Late 70's Ford Courier sitting in his yard w/ a "Home-Engineered" Turbo that puts out some darn good Hp. His main Gig is replicating Vintage parts for Pre-1940's-type cars where N.O.S. is no longer available.(Gaskets, Bushings, You name it.) Still, he may be a guy to bounce ideas w/ locally to you who has done alot of work both N/A and Turbo. Having met you, I think you two would get along...PM me.
Anyway, Back to the Topic.

BTW, for you Yungin's, N.O.S. means "New Old Stock", like original surplus/replacement parts that are "New" but Older/Original in age, as opposed to New but a Replication.

[ 10-19-2002, 04:08 AM: Message edited by: MichaelXi ]

MichaelXi · Oct 20, 2002

Bump.
Tom....????

zzzzzts · Oct 20, 2002

Originally posted by jinstall:
Here in Germany you can buy for $5000 a 2.1 255hp NA motor from Hurricane race motors. I even thought about this but it will not put me at the power I am looking for for the street. But cool none the less.

groupp buy?

[\]iteshift · Oct 21, 2002

wtf....bump. I'm giddy with anticipation/rage tom......for love of everything holy please provide some details.

1turbofocus · Oct 21, 2002

like what else do you want to know

i brought the dyno sheet home if some one will post it for me i will send it later today

tom

jinstall · Oct 21, 2002

NOS(new old stock) where do these kids get NOS(nitros oxide) from Nitrosoxide is better know on the street as "juice" or "laugh gas" or "laugh'n it down the strip"

Oh and they run 93 octain gas on the Hurricane race motors. I probably could get a group buy on these motors if you were interested, say 10 at $4200 plus shipping. Hmmm just might have to look into that.

focusownerskid · Oct 21, 2002

Originally posted by jinstall:

NOS(new old stock) where do these kids get NOS(nitros oxide) from Nitrosoxide is better know on the street as "juice" or "laugh gas" or "laugh'n it down the strip"

From www.nosnitrous.com , they only used N.O.S. in FATF and because of that, all the kids think all Nitrous is called NAWZ!

- Drew

icemanZX3 · Oct 21, 2002

You see, in the midwest and east coast, 93 and 94 octane can be had at any corner gas station.

so I am sure that the compression ratio was bumped up to like 10.5:1 or 11.0:1 to gain horsepower which in turn requires 93 or 94 octane..

I am not sure what the ratio would have to be to be safe to run on 91 octane on the west coast.

quaverous · Oct 21, 2002

Originally posted by icemanZX3:
You see, in the midwest and east coast, 93 and 94 octane can be had at any corner gas station.

I knew there was a reason i lived in minnesota! the snow we have gotten in the last two days makes me forget

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