stick or auto

ford9050 · Feb 16, 2005

I will probably get a new focus today if all goes well.

I know that the cars are not fast but whats faster or more trouble free on these cars? Stick or auto?

funnymangopoopoo · Feb 16, 2005

stick, if you want to control your car and get a feel for it go with a mangual tranny

ford9050 · Feb 16, 2005

Stick is also faster on these cars or does it matter

Z63R · Feb 16, 2005

Stick's definately better for performance road and track driving.

If it's a transpo car for going to work and you like drag racing, then an auto is pretty sweet; the 4F27E automatic in the Duratec Foci have an excellent shift map. The shift points relative to throttle position and RPM are perfect and you have the option of shifting manually by electric switch into and out of Overdrive. That's perty kewl...

Pzev · Feb 16, 2005

Have you driven a stick before? Do you commute a lot?

I own a stick, and love every minute of it. However, there are times when I wish I had an auto...and for my type of driving I wouldn't loose much performance wise. If you are not into autocross, or road racing then I say go auto. With a couple upgrades it would be killer on the drag strip.

Cameroon · Feb 16, 2005

Sticks get signifcantly better MPG as well.

desratt · Feb 16, 2005

stick period

hidrive · Feb 16, 2005

ATX BABY!! IT'S THE ONLY WAY TO DRIVE!

(I got 1000 posts!!!!!)

pitchblack23 · Feb 16, 2005

If you're after fast, you'll need to be more clear. The stick-shift will get you around corners faster. The automatic will get you faster in a straight line.

fiends911 · Feb 16, 2005

love my atx but im also a drag racing kinda guy.

pzev04boy · Feb 16, 2005

If you're after fast, you'll need to be more clear. The stick-shift will get you around corners faster. The automatic will get you faster in a straight line.

I'm not sure if i agree with that. You can launch harder and quicker with a stick, and you put more power to the wheels through a manual than an automatic. I would say auto is faster if you are not a good stick driver, but that's about it.

pitchblack23 · Feb 16, 2005

An automatic can shifter faster than any stick driver, and it'll shift much faster after some modification. And while it does have some parasitic loss for power, it increases your torque at launch.

pzev04boy · Feb 16, 2005

Yes an automatic that is moddified and using high stall speed torque converter can be quicker than a manual trans, but not in stock form.

Pzevinside · Feb 17, 2005

ATX BABY!! IT'S THE ONLY WAY TO DRIVE!

(I got 1000 posts!!!!!)

ATX Mang.

desratt · Feb 17, 2005

stick stick stick stick.

Z63R · Feb 17, 2005

Is there any traffic where you live? Any stoplights? Any stopsigns?...

Just kiddin' there, desert rat.

D20E · Feb 17, 2005

New to the Focus scene, but if you know how to drive stick, get a stick, if you don't, learn man.! Come on people, you only do half the driving in auto cars, the ECU does the rest...no fun in that. Any stick car will be a bit quicker then it's auto twin, if you know how to launch right and shift right. Now if you have a turbo that spools to 25psi plus, and the rpm's shoot up faster then you can even think of shifting, go with an auto..
Anyone..?
You can save some break expenses by downshifting too...

Z63R · Feb 17, 2005

if you know how to drive stick, get a stick, if you don't, learn man.! Come on people, you only do half the driving in auto cars, the ECU does the rest...no fun in that. Any stick car will be a bit quicker then it's auto twin, if you know how to launch right and shift right.

Some of us, like me, shift for a living now. I drive tractor/trailers in Southern California traffic.

I've been heel-and-toe double-clutch downshifting since I was fifteen years old. I am also a gearhead. I was making shift charts for my buddies for our 21-speed mountain bikes so we could know for sure exactly where the next ratio was...

I enjoy automatics and know enough about them to exploit their strengths. The shift map, which is ECU controlled, is excellent in my 2.3's 4F27E.
It is very driveable for sport.

Since you have asked, I will answer you in this way:

Calm down on the manual/automatic thing. I can tell you're a young buck, and think that anyone that drives an auto is a moron or something.

I assure you, Sir, that I will lap faster on a roadcourse than you and your stick, because I know how to drive, period. We will even swap cars; you drive mine and I'll drive yours. Again, I will be faster.

BTW, Welcome to [FJ]focaljet!

pitchblack23 · Feb 17, 2005

I've been heel-and-toe double-clutch downshifting since I was fifteen years old.

I'm always granny-shifting, not double-clutching like I should. I'm lucky that hundred-shot of NOS didn't blow the welds on the intake.

On a serious note, does double-clutching really provide any benefit when your transmission is packed full of synchros in every gear?

Z63R · Feb 17, 2005

On a serious note, does double-clutching really provide any benefit when your transmission is packed full of synchros in every gear?

The way I learned to get it right is with broken synchros, when they were made out of brass; now they have friction material similar to what's in an automatic trans...

Using a double-clutch for downshifting a manual will preserve the synchros from undue wear, that's about it.

Part of the double-clutch procedure is rev-matching, which can be done w/o the double-clutch; that merely ensures a smooth transition when the clutch is let out on the next lower gear.

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