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focaljet-1
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here is NA Spec Ford Fusion:jinstall said:Look familiar:
Five Hundred:
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Mondeo:
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The very fact that with mostly similar parts on the dash, they could not fit the clock between the centeral air vernts on the Mondeo shows you that the Mondeo is quite a bit smaller...
The other clue would be the fact that Mondeo's center console narrows steeply to fit between the front seats. The Fivehundred however keeps the width because it has much more space between the seats
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I don’t see people on the Jet flocking out to buy Audi A3's. It’s a focus sized premium compact with a LOT of features in it, and pretty similar to the euro version of it. Everyone complains it’s too $, yet if the car was stripped to bring down to "American" price levels for a small car everyone would complain it was stripped and cheep. The truth is most people here want a bigger car when they move up, not just a nicer car the same size as the focus.Thameth said:
Most places in the US have to room for you to comfortably drive a large car, and easily park and drive it. The only real exception is the north east US where the roads were from before cars, and many roads tend to be quite narrow, and parking is scarce. Because of that Euro cars do better there then “American” cars.
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yea ide kill for a streetka, with svt style seats and options
AHHH
DROOOOOOOL
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Wow that was so not calculated. The opening in the dash is the same, just configured differently.igor2 said:here is NA Spec Ford Fusion:
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The very fact that with mostly similar parts on the dash, they could not fit the clock between the centeral air vernts on the Mondeo shows you that the Mondeo is quite a bit smaller...
The other clue would be the fact that Mondeo's center console narrows steeply to fit between the front seats. The Fivehundred however keeps the width because it has much more space between the seats
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Ah, the elusive "premium compact".Thameth said:
The success of MINI had/has a lot of auto exec tongues wagging. Unfortunately, so far, big, fat Americans ain't takin' the bait.Volvo S40/V50 sales? Decent, but probably not overwhelming. Certainly not a home run.
Audi A3 sales? My guess... horrible. Even Audi fans aren't biting.
Chance of BMW 1 Series being sold here? Looking worse every day.
Can the C30 make a difference? Let's hope so, for ALL our sakes.
MINI sells because it has "it", that extra flair you can't define. IMHO, the only car that could develop that kind of cult status here might be the Smart.
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Is that the same "it" that you can buy on eBay?
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Wow let me put a different bumper on the Mondeo and then we can make it 195". The body length is not a true unit to measure from. You can have a long front and rear and no cabin space and still be a small car. That is how the WRC Teams are getting around the regulations. Another thing, it is not MY BELOVED Mondeo it is FORD's Mondeo. The New Mondeo has been out since 2000 and Ford NA sat on their asses and did nothing. Ford is almost a bad as GM.igor2 said:
Exterior dimensions
4-door 5-door Estate
Exterior (mm)
Overall length 4731 4731 4804
Overall width without mirrors 1812 1812 1812
Overall width with mirrors 1958 1958 1958
Overall height without roof rails 1429 1429 1441
Overall height with roof rails - - 1481
Wheelbase 2754 2754 2754
Ground clearance 130 130 130
Interior dimensions
4-door 5-door Estate
Front (mm)
Effective headroom 1002 1002 1000
Maximum effective leg room 1071 1071 1071
Shoulder room 1396 1396 1396
Rear (mm)
Effective headroom 952 963 1004
Minimum effective leg room 969 983 969
Shoulder room 1393 1393 1393
Loadspace dimensions
4-door 5-door Estate
Luggage area (mm)
Maximum cargo height - - 851
Maximum width between wheel arches - - 1141
Loadspace length to back of rear seat - - 1140
Maximum loadspace length to rear of front seats - - 1982
Stowable luggage (litres)*
5-seat mode 500** 500** 540
2-seat mode (laden to roof) - 1370 1700
* Measured using the VDA method. Dimensions may vary dependent on the model and equipment fitted.
**With mini steel spare (450 with full-size spare on 4-door and 460 on 5-door).
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Well, my wife is pretty sure she's going to soldier on with her TDI Beetle one more year.
She WAS planning on getting the updated, '06 Beetle w/ another TDI this Spring.
But, she has decided to wait for the '07 R56 MINI.
She WAS planning on getting the updated, '06 Beetle w/ another TDI this Spring.
But, she has decided to wait for the '07 R56 MINI.
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Not referring specifically to you, but the general fj population. I mentioned that I wanted an Audi A3 and every time it comes up everyone states “its overpriced” “its not worth it.” “Get an srt4 it’s faster for the money” etc…Thameth said:
I don’t want just faster, I want a NICE C size hatchback with stability control, good safety, and a manual transmission. I can not think of ONE other car in the US that meets that description other than the A3. Now some stuff that is CLOSE MAY be coming out in a few years, but right now it is the ONLY car that meats that description.
Its almost funny the one track mind people have. How big is the car, and how fast is it. Other than that it could be a POS but no one seams to take about that until they see someone else with a nicer car. THEN its an issue, till they see the price tag, THEN they complain they cant get the nicer stuff for the same price as there cheep POS.
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