[Yel900rr]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by FOCUSO1:
how does it sound with the new cat?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

It has a more crisp sound to the exhaust. The exhaust on the car was a vibrant which is pretty loud compared to other exhaust systems.

 

[BANDIT]

Holey s*&%t calm down guys, McNews is just trying to help you out. Its a new type of cat a lot smaller than any cat out there & is a new design. Beleive it or not does anyone know what a "cat" is made up of anyone, anyone. Well lets start with rodium (I think I spelled it corectly) This is a very very precious metal, More valuable than gold! There is also platnum in there. Now how do you make a "cat" more efficient? That's right you need to add more rodium & other precious metals.
Also the brick inside the "cat" is also a new design, so calm down.
There's a lot of r & d that goes into these things even though it looks so simple, and if your brave enough see what happens when you take a universal cat bend some pipe see what kind of results you get!
Just my 2cents.
Oh one more thing all aftermarket cats have a federal warranty 2years 24000 on emissions & 5years 50,000 on the outer shell and pipes.

 

[Yel900rr]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Hooked Again:
Having scanned these posts it looks as thought the big question is price. I'm not goint there right now.

However, I am curious as to what kind of support/bracing there will be for the RT cat? Our OEM cats have a strap the helps support the whole unit and keep from stressing the exhaust manifold or header. Some have theorized that without the extra support it may stress enough to break, much as some of the JBA headers have.

Just my .02<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

The header should easily support the weight of this setup. With a single flange header and half the weight.A long tube header is made the same and it supports more weight than this setup.

 

[PowerFocusZTS]

Will McNews and/or Random be requiring customers to sign a release form like Focus Sport does with thier race header? If you are a U.S. resident your car will be just as illegal with the Random cat as it will be with the race header or cat elimination pipe.

Why not go with the header or elim pipe? The elimination pipe is not the same as gutting your cat by the way. That large open can of a cat housing can't be good for exhaust flow. The elimination pipe can be had for about $150. The FS race header is only $375, just slightly more than the Random cat from the sounds of it.

The only reason I would be interested in it is if it can pass a sniff test down the road when I have to get tested. If it can't, then why bother? Again even if it can pass a sniff test your car will still be illegal for 5 model years for improper equipment.

I hate to rain on people's parade and I hate to get on the Jet's case, but all this is just as illegal as street racing which is not allowed to be discussed. Actually replacing your OE cat carriers a stiffer penalty than street racing in most cases.

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[BANDIT]

Ray give me a call tomorrow I may be able to help you with something.

 

[Yel900rr]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by PowerFocusZTS:
Will McNews and/or Random be requiring customers to sign a release form like Focus Sport does with thier race header? If you are a U.S. resident your car will be just as illegal with the Random cat as it will be with the race header or cat elimination pipe.

Why not go with the header or elim pipe? The elimination pipe is not the same as gutting your cat by the way. That large open can of a cat housing can't be good for exhaust flow. The elimination pipe can be had for about $150. The FS race header is only $375, just slightly more than the Random cat from the sounds of it.

The only reason I would be interested in it is if it can pass a sniff test down the road when I have to get tested. If it can't, then why bother? Again even if it can pass a sniff test your car will still be illegal for 5 model years for improper equipment.

I hate to rain on people's parade and I hate to get on the Jet's case, but all this is just as illegal as street racing which is not allowed to be discussed. Actually replacing your OE cat carriers a stiffer penalty than street racing in most cases.

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Will your car pass e-test with all those mods?

 

[CTZX3]

man you guys need to calm down, Tandon Technology is the best high flow cat maker around, and made a high flow cat for our Foci. find another company that is doing this for us.

SHM sold me a high flow cat to me with my SHM header, but i changed to a Random Tech. cat and gained even more hp.

you can get a Focus sport street header or jba header for $300-350, more than this cat is going to cost and only come away with 2hp.

why buy a shorty header at all? this cat will add 8hp, this seems to be the better deal.

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[PowerFocusZTS]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Yel900rr:
Will your car pass e-test with all those mods? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I don't know about the camshafts, but the car has passed a Colorado State Emm. sniff test with everything else listed. I answered your question, now please answer mine or atleast tell us you don't know. Will a car with the Random Cat installed pass an emmission sniff test?

I'm assuming that most people who are interested in buying this cat want it because they believe they will pass emmissions. I'm sure they would like to know for sure. I actually think the price of $300 is right inline with other aftermarket parts for the Focus, if it does what it is supposed to do. It obviously gets good power gains, but I suspect you can get similar numbers from an elimination pipe for half the price. The difference is the Random cat is supposed to be a functioning catalytic converter as well. We need to know how it performs in that respect. If it does a good job as a catalytic converter while still giving the posted numbers then its worth the expected price.

Why buy a catalytic converter if you can't pass emmissions?

 

[nazthug]

i really think it should pass the sniff test, it is a cat afterall isnt it? Why would a catalityc converter company make cats that doesnt pass smog? I know the visual wont probably pass, but will the sniff test pass emmisions? I dont see why it wouldnt, why make cats then?

Heres my requierements:

Passes smog test/emission(whatever)
Is $300 or below
Will not crack my header(it DOES have to e suported..the street header will crack, it will even crack if you dont install the stock cat right, FOCUSSPORT just found that out. So i really hope you guys will have a bracket like the stock one to support the cat.

Will give me power gains

WIll not increase sound too much over stock

 

[nazthug]

and anyway...what do i do if FORD wont replace my catylic converter because they say my car has been modified? I do not plan on paying $800 for a stock cat installed. If i do get pulled over and they say my cat is illegal, i will tell em to go fight ford. I tried getting the stock cat. Also, if i do pay $800 for a stock cat, it will go bad within 6months anyway cause the 2000 model focuses had ALL bad cats, why do you think ford redesigned them for the later focuses? Compare the 2 cats and see what im talking about, its no coincidence, they just wont admit it. Damn ford, i hate them.

 

[Marction]

having ranted a little bit earlier...I REALLY do want one of these. Emissions legal would be nice...otherwise I might have bought the race header instead.

I really really hope that a good deal can be arranged for us here...imagine how many could be sold right off the bat, then you have everyone telling everyone else how good it is, etc. Random could sell a ton of these if they only price it right...ok, $300 including shipping (anywhere in N.A., don't screw the Canadians, lol), come on McNews that guarantees my purchase!

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[nazthug]

yeah, see were not saying what price we can afford, its just that a little better price can get a whole bunch of people involved...its a phsycological feel, when people think they are getting a deal, they buy. If it passes smog, im in for it, but it cant be more than $300 period. Thats just my limit.

 

[Thom]

Hey, Naz, what are your requirements for you to buy this cat again? something about smog tests and $300??? refresh my memory

 

[Jays2000ZX3]

Having Read all of this again:
If this gives me 8 HP at the wheels with my Stock manifold and passes e-test, then I don`t need to buy any header, that gives me less HP, That makes sense to me.

So if we get a great price point, this will get a lot of guys to buy!

The race header does keep your O2 sensors, but you do get a CEL. Even SCC noted that!

And this Cat keeps them,and you won`t get a CEL, so that is a good thing.

If for 300$, I don`t need a Street header to go with it, and I get better gains then the Long tube header, then it is worth it!

 

[Wedge1212]

well I dont care if it costs 300-350....obviously 300 would nicer and I could afford it much sooner. My only interest is passing emissions and no CEL. CEL's are the bain of my existance. Well anyways. I wont be one of the first ones to buy this because I have to work on my intake side now. All of my mods are on the exhaust side. So I've got low end but the high end isnt super great yet. So lets see some emissions results and then a few of you suckers try this thing out and let us know...hehe.

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[nazthug]

yell900rr or mcnews peeps:

Will this pass smog? I dont understand why it wouldnt, what would be the point of putting a cat in the middle of that pipe, am i correct? Let me know about htis, cause if it didnt pass..it wouldnt make sense to me you know? Anyway, i cant wait till you guys get em, and i cant wait to get mine. Please dont let it go over $300, with shipping would be nice for the first set of orders or something, you know a special for those gunnie pigs that are trying it out. Thnx, i will also get it dynoed so you guys can have more info to back up your product. Thnx

 

[icemanZX3]

Ya'll need to take some chill pills...

I would pay $300 for it... its alot better than the stock cat and you wont have to replace the stock cat every time it blows out....


8 hp is 8 hp....(most CAT-BACK EXHAUSTS dont come close to that) doesnt matter how you get it..as long as it helps, than its worth it..


but once OHIO gets rid of E-check..then I will be getting the FS race header with flex pipe...

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[cheezitterrorist]

so...uh...from before, will it be able to be run on a race header or just a shorty?

eric

 

[PowerFocusZTS]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by cheezitterrorist:
so...uh...from before, will it be able to be run on a race header or just a shorty?

eric<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

You couldn't possibly have a cat that works with a long tube race header and a shorty street header. Its just not possible. So, no it won't work with a race header.

[This message has been edited by PowerFocusZTS (edited 09-20-2001).]

 

[Yel900rr]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by cheezitterrorist:
so...uh...from before, will it be able to be run on a race header or just a shorty?

eric<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

No it's not going to work with the race header but its in the plan.One thing at a time.
We are going to have it emissions tested as soon as we get something arranged there are no stations close by.

Hey I want to know to if it will pass. I will not sell something that will not do what it is supposed to do and a cat should pass emissions but I don't believe that will be a problem knowing the company this has come from.

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