[Focus Addict]

Gonna put in the 22mm front bar from Eibach, and was thinking either the 22 from Progress, or the 24 from H&R for the rear. Which would you all recommend? I don't autocross much, but I love the feel of taking turns at break-neck speed.

 

[pitchblack23]

If you're going to put on the 22mm front bar (why do this, anyway?), you'll need the H&R or Eibach rear to keep from drastic understeer. Unless you are a very conservative driver or will be travelling at high speeds (triple digits), you'll want a stronger rear bar than front.

In fact, I'd suggest putting in a Progress rear bar without any change to the front. Trust me, you don't want the hassle of the front bar change anyway!

 

[MichaelXi]

True.
If you Auto-X, I'd say put in the Eibach rear bar too.
If you do alot of quick but lower speed cornering, go with the H&R.
If you do only High Speed Cornering, like 60 mph+ Go with the Progress.
I agree with the above though, that you don't need to upgrade the front bar, UNLESS your doing a significant rear upgrade as well.
IF you add the Eibach Front bar, Since you have the S2 springs, I'd recommend EITHER Swapping to the SVT Springs and the Progress bar, OR keep what you've got and add the H&R bar, IF you don't plan on any spring or damper upgrades.
Remember, TIRES will make the largest Improvement in Handling.

 

[sweetfocus]

MichealXi are you saying that if you auto cross that you don't need to change to front sway bar just the back with Eibach

 

[Focus Addict]

Oh, I got rid of the S2 springs a long time ago. First mod actually. They were replaced with Progress springs, and Eibach dampers. SO, I'll be having somebody else do the front bar anyway. Brother has access to the college's autolab with lifts, so he'll do it there, unless you can convince me otherwise...

 

[MichaelXi]

MichaelXi are you saying that if you auto cross that you don't need to change to front sway bar just the back with Eibach

IF you DO Auto-X, I wouldn't change the Front bar, unless you've got REALLY Soft Springs.
The Rear bar is variable, depending on your springs and upon your skill-level/driving style.
If your springs are well-balanced, I would ONLY recommend the Eibach rear bar IF you're doing the Front Eibach bar.
If you're going with a std front bar, the largest that I'd EVER consider is the H&R bar.
Generally, the Progress or maybe one of the 22.5mm bars like the ADDCO should be plenty sufficient.
I'd raise spring rates before going too big with the bars though.
IMO, the Eibach bars are on the "too big" side, and cut down too much on Left/Right Independence.
In summation, a stock front bar with a Progress Rear bar should be great for any Balanced set of springs, and the stock Front bar with H&R Rear bar is the most Extreme combo that I'd use for Auto-X, UNLESS you have a Spring setup that pushes like a dumptruck, in which case it'd be best to fix that First, THEN worry with the bars.

 

[MichaelXi]

Oh, I got rid of the S2 springs a long time ago. First mod actually. They were replaced with Progress springs, and Eibach dampers. SO, I'll be having somebody else do the front bar anyway. Brother has access to the college's autolab with lifts, so he'll do it there, unless you can convince me otherwise...

With the Progress Springs, I'd consider the Stock front bar and Either the Progress or the H&R rear bar, depending on the typical speed of your corners.
You can be going REALLY fast at 45mph depending on the corner, but if your typical corner is 55+, go with the Progress bar for sure.
If it's mostly lower speed twisties, try the H&R bar.
The only thing "S2" about your car mechanically now is the bars anyway.

On my S2, I have the stock bars, and I've added Poly-U rear endlinks to be closer to the stock SVT bar combo. (Same bars, different factory rear endlinks stock). I've just upgraded the springs to H&R Race Springs 2" drop, and have Koni Dampers to keep them under control.

 

[Focus Addict]

"The only thing "S2" about your car mechanically now is the bars anyway."

Not true. I kept the S2 stickers on the side, and that lame attempt at a wing.

What about teh Eibach 22 in the front, and the Progress in the rear? What would that accomplish? I just hate giving up the idea of the front bar since it took me forever to find just an Eibach front, but like I said, I don't race much at all. I just like taking turns faster than most people, like entrance ramps.

 

[MichaelXi]

"The only thing "S2" about your car mechanically now is the bars anyway."

Not true. I kept the S2 stickers on the side, and that lame attempt at a wing.

What about teh Eibach 22 in the front, and the Progress in the rear? What would that accomplish? I just hate giving up the idea of the front bar since it took me forever to find just an Eibach front, but like I said, I don't race much at all. I just like taking turns faster than most people, like entrance ramps.

Unless the stickers or wing aid with power or handling, they don't count as "mechanical".

The rear wing is actually a decent diffuser.
Eibach 22F/Progress R would definitely be streetable, but "On the Edge", I can't swear that it won't have a bit of understeer.
It might not, but nobody has tried that combo with those springs, so it's all guesswork at this point.

 

[Focus Addict]

Then I'll be the first. Now, where to find the cheapest price for the Progress bar...

 

[MichaelXi]

Then I'll be the first. Now, where to find the cheapest price for the Progress bar...

If you can't find a "Cheapest", you'll find the best Service at www.NewEdgePerformance.com .
The owner, Tony D, has been a long-time supporter of our scene, and he's a long-time Performance enthusiast.

 

[Focus Addict]

Already ordered. I've dealt with Tony before. Good guy.