they are cheap set of cheap coilovers, they will get you low no questions asked, but are not for track use

 

Buy quality or save your money until you can. H&R and Bilstein are what I recommend.

 

what to you guys think about ksports?

 

Buy quality or save your money until you can. H&R and Bilstein are what I recommend.

For track use, all my experience and everything I have read indicates that a quality monotube is the way to go. Based on what I have seen, Bilsteins are the only quality monotube that is affordable. H&R uses Bilstein internals, so you have two ways to get them.

Read this too - http://forums.focaljet.com/focus-road-racing/668193-buying-shocks-budget.html

 

there's someone I read on FF im not sure if hes on here, but he has a set of koni yellow shocks, if i were to get these what springs would be best to match?

 

When you buy used Konis, you lose the warranty. In my experience, Konis require a good warranty since they don't have good quality control.

Many have reported that the H&R Race Springs work well with OTS Konis. Once again, my experience has been that for track use, you want monotube dampers. Ignore this advice at your own peril.

 

so these would be my best bet in your opinion?

http://www.steeda.ca/ford-focus-par...d-focus-parts/2.0L-Zetec/suspension-chassis-steering/Coil-Over-Kits/HR/29458-1/

 

While not perfect, those are a great place to start. I run them myself as I could not justify the cost differential to the Bilstein PSS9/10 kit. The biggest issue is that they lower the car a little too much if you are interested in performance (which you are).

 

yes i am haha

 

The biggest issue you will have is with ground clearance for dirt road driving. While the Mr. Stancypants crowd will disagree, IMO the highest setting is still quite low if you are running on anything other than smooth asphalt. You can always run something like this to get some height back. Since the kit is adjustable, you can use those to add just ½" if you want. Doing so would probably help the roll center location a fair amount as well. I haven't plotted the instant centers on my car yet, but I have a feeling that when I do, I will be figuring out ways to increase the ride height.

 

the Mr. Stancypants crowd

That's cute.


Could have just given your opinion on the subject at hand and went about your day, but you had to drag in the people who go low and get a jab in for no apparent reason. Nice.

 

If you consider me posting Mr. Stancypants as harassing or a personal attack, you have way too thin skin.

 

"Mr. Stancypants" is hardly a use terms violation.

Let's get back on topic before I actually moderate something.

 

Let's get back on topic before I actually moderate something.

10-4. Like everything else, the coilovers are going to be just the start. Since they contain springs that are relatively soft, you are going to have significant front end roll (exacerbated by the aforementioned assumed roll center location problem) and will need a way to combat the loss of grip this causes. There are two ways, and IMO employing both of them is best.
1) Add bigger sway bars. Without a limited slip (and even with if you aren't careful) the larger front can cause a loss of corner exit traction, but it is a net positive in my experience. The larger rear is a must.
2) Camber. Check my build thread for how I did it on the cheap. On a dual purpose car, how much you run is a big compromise when it comes to wear.

Overall, get out there and have fun. My Focus was 7 months old when it was first on track and the only mods were a 22mm Progress rear bar and a Winnie the Poo window shade for my son's car seat.

 

raceland just started road testing their new coilovers , im excited to see how they turnout

 

I am too. I love seeing broken suspension pieces. I'd rather take a tricycle on track than drive a car with Racelands.

 

I really like my h&r coilovers. Ive had a lot of cars and my 07 st with h&rs is the best handling car ive ever driven.

 

They better not hurt that SVT! :rant:

 

in my opinion do i think the new racelands will be on "top quality" level? no, these are not $1k coilovers, they are still going to be around ~500 from what i have read/seen but i know for sure that the quality and ride will be much better then the first batches of coilovers raceland made when they first came on the scene. hopefully these will be on the level of ksports or atleast close

 

Oh, I doubt they will be too. I think they'll turn out much like ksports if they're actually doing road testing as they say..

-Matt

 

yea im pretty excited, its either racelands or ground controls since i just picked up some AGX shocks

 

GC sleeves + AGXs may be a bad idea depending on the height and spring rate. They can't handle much more than 1.5" below stock. They've been used with H&R race springs (~2-2.25" lower) but they had to be really cranked up to dampen the springs at that height and rate.

 

i was told else where that GCs would be good for the AGX since the AGX requires a stiff spring

 

Who told you that? AGXs are designed for stock springs and light performance springs.

 

thought i read it on focus fanatics but i may be wrong, oh well so AGX would be fine on an apex lowering spring?

 

FF... there's your problem...

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Yeah, the 1.5" Apex springs would match nicely to the AGX dampers.

 

A friend of mine ran AGXs with Intrax springs are they were not capable of handling the spring rate. Suspension was not very well controlled. It wasn't a pogo stick by any means, but you could tell that the spring rate was overpowering the dampers.

 

Yeah, those are near H&R Race rates. A few people have said they had good luck running that combo, but like you I question it.

 

I would put that setup in the category of "acceptable if I have no better alternative", but since there are a number of better ways to go, I don't see the point. As you said, the AGXs will likely serve as a decent shock for a lower rate set of springs. I certainly wouldn't turn my nose up at them if it were just to make a car a little more fun and responsive for the daily commute.

 

I'd bet (but have no experience) that AGXs would pair well with SVT springs.

 

The 28mm bar? You guys are nuts. That thing scares me. :lol:

...due to snapping parts, not oversteer.

 

Have run it for years. Not an issue, IMO.

 

Weird... I've had TWO friends that have had a 25mm bar (One Steeda, one Eibach) rip the mounts off the subframe.... on no-rust California cars.

 

Install error is my guess. I know someone who had the same problem and he had overtightened the pivot bushing mount bolts which bound up the bar and bent the mounts. The bar not rotating properly started the fatigue cycle on the mounts with predictable results. Remember that the larger bars uses thinner bushings for packaging reasons, making overtightening even more of a problem.

Let me see if I can dig up some pictures that show what I am talking about.

 

I'm definitely confused. The mount bracket needs to be flush with the crossmember plate or else the bolts will either back out or cycle themselves to failure.