Looks nice. 2.0L is not going to cut it.

 

2.0L Boxer 4 in what will be a tuners dream? There's nothing saying this won't be a 2.0L turbo.

With the Genesis Coupe rocking a 2.0T from Mitsubishi... I doubt Toyota will be stupid enough to miss the boat on this.

The rivalry between the Evo and STi are too well known for Toyota to bow out and not carry a derivative of the rival engine.

 

Quite honestly... of all cars on the market... I would 100% say that this would be where my money goes if I'm in the market for a $20,000 car.

$25,000+... we're stepping into tastier territory.

 

Notice it has a 101 in wheelbase, its gonna be a small car, likely lighter than the Genesis beast

2011 is gonna be a good year to buy a new car!!!

looking at this, eventhough I hate Toyota
CR-Z dont like hybrids
Focus 2.0l Turbo

 

This would be the first Toyota I've ever considered buying.

And, if at $20,000 you can get one configured well... It'll be mine.

This is all assuming this 2.0 they're talking about has a snail strapped to it. But, as I mentioned earlier... they can't be THAT stupid. I'm almost taking it as a given.

 

that is one of the nicest concept cars i've seen in a while.

I'd rock that toyota in a heart beat if it lives up the description

 

Next Scion TC?

Looks incredible. Glad to see there are people in the industry who will still cater to enthusiasts.

 

The rumors of this car have been swirling around for a long time, and it has been on-again-off-again several times.

I'm glad to finally see the concept. And I like it… very much!

Its meant to be a (relatively) lightweight, high-revving, RWD drift machine. 2.0L is just fine.

 

Wow...

There are design queues from a lot of different cars in there (mostly Mazda and Nissan), but I think I can honestly say this car has its own flavor, and is looking really desirable in RWD.

 

You'd think if they're trying to evoke the AE86 they'd include the affordable part.

 

Compared to the AE86, when it was new, in dollars then vs. dollars now... it is affordable.

It looks mostly doable. The mirrors, headlights, and seats aren't likely to make the cut though.

 

I cant help but think this is going to be a dissapointment as far as power goes. Memories of the last MR2 are still in my mind. I hope they prove me wrong but I say it will be a great handling car but a dissapointment everywhere else. Like the MR2 and Miata it will be popular with teenage girls, mid-life crisis males, and the occasional enthusiast.

 

Dobber, so you're saying that 200hp in a lightweight mid-engined car that you can't drive in the rain because it will just spin in circles isn't enough?

I think they realize that most enthusiasts are going to use the platform as a starting point. Even if they offer a low-boost turbo package, people will just swap it for a bigger one. Why shouldn't they just give you the platform and let those who want to develop it further?

 

Well considering my 109hp Ranger spins in circles in the rain I dont really consider that a good benchmark.

How light can you really make a 4 seater?

200hp in a high reving NA 2.0L will mean no low end torgue. I have driven my fair share of those and I dont like them. Now if it does come with a turbo then I will change my statement. But at that price I doubt there will be a turbo.

No one designs high volume production cars strictly for enthusiasts. There is no money in it. Even if TRD throws the whole garage at it I dont see this being that great of a car. Right now this looks comparable to the last MR2 or Celica to me. And it will probably go the way of the last MR2/Celica. They will sell a ton to start, the market will be saturated quickly, and it will fizzle out in 3 years.

 

Can I haz one in Black?

 

This is by far the most exciting thing Toyota has produced in over a decade. I would actually consider this as a car I could be seen in. I normally hate anything Toyota does since they make so many bland, boring cars. Their F1 program and the FT-86 are the only things that they do that interest me. Otherwise, their products are as exciting as a yawn.

 

It looks like a cross between an RX8 and a 370z.

 

only better than those cars look. The nose and headlights are very agressive.

 

A boxer engine pretty much kills the idea of having a high-revving engine. It won't be any 4AGE. The car looks great, but considering what a Corolla costs now, I don't think this car will be anywhere near $20k.

 

That is pretty darn sexy. :thumbup:

 

I'm not sure on the styling of this; it's really futuristic. Then again it is a 2011 car.

It looks like the most powerful NA EJ20 puts out 190hp according to wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subaru_EJ_engine#EJ20

I'll reserve passing verdict until I drive one, but I'm glad Toyota is finally making a sporty car.

Maybe the...'10s...will be the 90s reborn and everyone will make RWD cars again.
All we need is for Nissan to bring the Silvia back, a new Supra, new RX-7, etc. Slim chances of all that happening though...

 

All we need is for Nissan to bring the Silvia back

Amen brotha! I would be interested in this but I am still holding out hope for a next gen Silvia. I won't be buying anything anytime soon so I can wait.

 

I think people are overly-obsessed with horsepower these days.

A 200hp, 150 tq 2.0L yanking around a 2800lb (fingers-crossed) car would be all sorts of fun.

You can have all sorts of driving fun in the 7.0+ second to sixty category.

 

i do want this and i want it now

 

The "Subaru-derived" part of the engine description has me wondering... will it be an existing Subaru engine (with a deliciously overzealous aftermarket)?

 

It's about time they pull their head out of their ass

 

If I can start a company that is as successful as Toyota is (and has been for quite some time) by sticking my head up my ass, I'm going to start doing Yoga tomorrow.

 

I WILL buy this car if it comes out as they are portraying it.

It's everything one could want.

Small, light, nimble, RWD, and looks nice.

[applause]

Good job Toyota.

 

Wow, if this thing continues looking as promising as it is right now, I think the Genesis may have competition for my new car in a few years :hump::hump:

-Brian

 

yea and thats true too, however we are in the day now where a VW GTI costs 30k

 

And people are still waiting for inflation.:lol:

Yes we are in an age where a well equipped focus ses tops $20k easily (btw my '02 ZTS in same trim was $15K)


btw this is an interesting development. I thought this car was dead a year or more ago.:dunno:

 

Gorgeous.