This is a good thing.

Still using the AEM computer? Custom intake manifold or ITBS? I can't imagine the Cosworth will be enough to reach your power goals, even at 12.5:1 and gnarly cams.

 

This is a good thing.

Still using the AEM computer? Custom intake manifold or ITBS? I can't imagine the Cosworth will be enough to reach your power goals, even at 12.5:1 and knarly cams.

We are going to be using the aem ems 4 on both this car and Bryan's true street turbo focus.
We plan on using 52mm itb's
As for the compression ratio we are going to try a couple different things.

 

Are you guys considering offering a tuning package with the itbs and standalone to customers after this is done? I wouldn't mind making grumpy car more grumpy.

 

yes

 

i'm following your other thread with the turbo build, are you going to be using the 2.5 block and the 2.3 head for this build as well?

 

correct.

I will post more info as we go along. We are going to test two different engines in this car.

1st one with a stock 2.5 bottom end, ported 2.3 head, crane cams and itb's

2nd Engine with be much more radical : 2.5 with 15:1 compression and ported 2.5 head

 

Would the 2.5 head work on the 2.3?

 

So it's fully counterweighted; but I can't tell for sure from the picture if it's forged. It appears to be cast, judging by what little I can see of the parting line. If so, then it's different from the Mazda crank.

Edit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cis_OSQEVWk

From youtube. It's just a video of a dyno session of a 2.5 duratec, showing the results at the end. Looks like a little over 300hp. I tried to contact the builder, Damico, to get a little more info, but so far no response.

 

The crankshaft is cast. Do you know of anyone that has confirmed that the mazda crankshaft is forged. Pictures? I had planned on buying a mazda 3 engine in the next few weeks to take apart and see for myself.

 

I've been going by Mazda literature, which says it's forged. I wouldn't be surprised if they switched to a cast crankshaft; as it must be much cheaper to manufacture. At least this Fusion crank is fully counterweighted.

 

Yeah I have read the same thing. But I have also read that the mazda and ford bottom ends are identical.. Who know:dunno:

 

Hey guys... pretty sweet project...

I found this after watching the above vid and looking into damico race engine...

http://www.twinkam.co.uk/shop/catal...sid=OSB6DdWpMTM2cKrBnu59sDhlbicw12PgvkYwhpUv7wAJ5dhlP461e8xGitxWBWTY&shop_param=

looks like a place that builds custom cranks for the duratec... and any motor for that matter but you have to order atleast 3 of the custom pieces... but their prices arnt bad... ~850 euro which would be a little over $1200... not bad for a billet crank

Anyways... keep it up
-Chris

 

I would bet that the ford and Mazda engines are the same. Based on my experience taking apart 2.3 duratec/mzr engines they will be the same. Great info though and another interesting project to follow.

 

Any update ?

 

Got in a set of crane stage 5's in. Hopefully I will have better updates later this week,

 

Have you considered installing the direction injection from the Mazadspeed3? It seems like this would allow for higher compression but may be difficult to tune.

 

May be A LOT of effort. Would need the CDFP and a way to tune.

 

stage 5's??? those pistons are gonna have to have some serious room marked in them for the valves right?

 

Still no electricity at the shop because of Irene

 

That sucks man. Sorry to hear that. I've been wanting to order your PCV delete plate too!!!

 

home depots having a sale on generators

 

Im curious...whats does the duratec have that the zetec doesnt that allows the COP to work properly under boost? I know this is an N/A build, but still curious...

 

The computer is set up to run that way to begin with. I think the part of the problem comes down to voltage. All of these COP "hacks" aren't supplying enough voltage to the coils for a proper spark. We tried a set of duratec coils on my car back in December and it wouldn't even make 300whp before it was blowing the spark out.

 

You think a high output/amp alternator would fix that?

 

It might but why would you want to mess with it? With stock zetec coil and wires making 600+ I dont see the point yet. When I find the limit of the stock pieces I will worry with it then.

 

X2 lol

 

Just ordered one

 

Did you ever get those flow numbers? Curious bout that 2.5 head.. =)

 

sooooo stoked on this build cant wait to pics/vids/dyno sheets... on a side note...

I may never understand how Honda guys can be so arrogant about their "all motor" superiority... whens the last time you saw a lotus7 or caterham with B or K series motor? im not sayin there arent kit cars such as this with Honda motors but zetec's RULED that market until the Dura's came along which are still Ford lol... fact of the matter being the zetec is still a highly prefered option in this style of car...

 

Looking forward to how this turns out.

 

Any news here?

 

X2